1980 1000E vs 1000G 4 into 2 exhaust system????

[mdaily@comcast.net]

Hello:

We have a 1980 GS 1000G that needs new exhaust. Will the 1980 1000E 4 into 2 system work on the "G?" Please email me mdaily@comcast.net

Many thanks

[BassCliff]

Hey howdy hey!

Mr. mdaily,

I'm sorry I can't help you with your exhaust question. I'm just the guy who stands at the door and waves and says, "How are you? Glad to see you!" as you walk in. :-D

I would think that it would fit. But wait for the experts to chime in.

Let it be known that on this day you are cordially and formally welcomed to the GSR Forum as a Junior Member in good standing with all the rights and privileges thereof. Further let it be known that your good standing can be improved with pictures (not your, your bike)! :-D

Perhaps you've already seen these, but I like to remind all the new members. In addition to the carb rebuild series, I recommend visiting the garage section via the GSR Hompage and check out the Stator Papers. There's also a lot of great information in the Old Q&A section. I have some documentation on my little BikeCliff website to help get you familiar with doing routine maintenance tasks (note that it is 850G-specific but many tasks are common to all GS bikes). Other "user contributed" informational sites include those of Mr. bwringer, Mr. tfb and Mr. robertbarr.

And here are some quotes from one of our dear beloved gurus, Mr. bwringer, with ideas on basic maintenance needs (depending on initial condition), parts, and accessories.

***********Quoted from Mr. bwringer************
Carburetor maintenance:

Replace the intake boot o-rings, and possibly the intake boots. Here's the procedure:
http://bwringer.com/gs/intakeorings.html

Here's an overview of what happens with this particular problem:
http://cycleorings.com/intake.html

You'll also want to examine the boots between the carbs and the airbox. There's a good chance these are OK, but check them over.

And finally, if things still aren't exactly right, you'll want to order a set of o-rings for BS carbs from the GS owner's best friend, Robert Barr:
http://cycleorings.com

Once you receive these rare rings of delight, then you'll want to thoroughly clean and rebuild your carburetors. Here are step-by-step instructions that make this simple:
http://thegsresources.com/gs_carbrebuild.htm
*************End Quote*************
**********<quote Mr. bwringer>**********
Every GS850 has (or had) a set of well-known issues that MUST be addressed before you have a solid baseline for further troubleshooting.

It's a vintage bike, and it's quite common (as in, every single GS850 I have had contact with) that there are multiple problems that have crept up and slowly gotten worse over the years.

It's not like a newer vehicle, where there's generally one problem at a time.

These common issues are:

Intake O-rings (install NEW OEM or Viton only - common nitrile o-rings will quickly deteriorate from heat)

Intake Boots (install NEW -- these cannot be repaired)

Valve clearances (more important than most people think)

Carb/airbox boots

Airbox sealing

Air filter sealing

Petcock (install a NEW one)

On '79 models, install new points or Dyna electronic ignition (or at least verify that the old points are working correctly)

On all models, it's fairly common to have problems with the spark plug caps. These are $3 or $4 each, and often worth replacing if you're keeping the stock coils/wires.

Stock exhaust with NO leaks or holes -- good seals at the head and at the junctions underneath.
**********<end quote>**********
***********Quoted from Mr. bwringer***************
http://denniskirk.com
Put in your bike model and see what they have.

I would definitely double and triple the recommendations to use Cycle Recycle II and Z1 Enterprises as much as possible. These guys are priceless resources. Z1 tends to have slightly better prices, CRC2 has a wider range of goodies available. If you're near Indy and can bring in an old part to match, CRC2 has a vast inventory of used parts.

http://oldbikebarn.com seems to be slowly regaining a decent reputation, but it's still caveat emptor. They don't have anything you can't get elsewhere at a better price anyway.

OEM Parts/Online Fiches:

http://www.babbittsonline.com/
Decent parts prices. Spendy shipping. Don't give you part numbers at all. Useful cross-reference if you obtain a part number elsewhere. Efficient service.

http://bikebandit.com
Fastest. Middlin' prices. Uses their own parts numbering system to obfuscate price comparisons -- can be very confusing for large orders. Cheapest shipping, so total cost usually isn't too bad.

http://flatoutmotorcycles.com
Slow. Cheapest parts prices, crazy shipping costs. Don't expect progress updates or much communication. Real Suzuki part numbers.

http://alpha-sports.com
Exorbitant parts prices. Different type of fiche interface that's quite useful at times, especially with superceded part numbers. Real parts numbers. Shipping cost and speed unknown due to insane, unholy pricing.

Stainless Bolts, Viton o-rings, metric taps, dies, assorted hard-to-find supplies and materials, etc.:
http://mcmaster.com
Fast, cheap shipping, good prices. No order minimum, but many items like bolts come in packs of 25 or 50. Excellent resource.

http://motorcycleseatcovers.com
Great quality, perfect fit (on original seat foam), and available for pretty much every bike ever made. Avoid the textured vinyl -- it's perforated.

http://newenough.com
You DO have riding gear, don't you? Great clearances, always outstanding prices and impeccable service.
***************End Quote**********************

Here are a few extra links:

Cycle-Re-Cycle Part 2
http://crc2onlinecatalog.com/

The ever popular Z1 Enterprises
http://www.z1enterprises.com

The Rice Paddy (salvage/used)
http://www.ricepaddymotorcycles.com

Ron Ayers Motorsports
http://www.ronayers.com

Lots of good info/pictures here:
http://www.suzukicycles.org

Thanks for joining us. Keep us informed of your progress. There's lots of good folk with good experience here.

Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff
(The unofficial GSR greeter)

[emjay]

I expect not. You can check an online parts fiche here to check and compare part numbers.

[salty_monk]

I have an E exhaust on my G. It will fit but you need to make some link plates for the rear fixings. TPO put mine on & hasn't done too bad a job but not a great one as the way he has done it hampers the centrestand slightly meaning it won't quite sit right up. It also gets in the way of the sidestand a little.

It's certainly rideable though... I've done 7k miles with it & he had done many more. I'm changing it out soon though for something else.

Depending on how I get on I may have some Jardine cans up for sale that look like they will fit, you'll prob need to use your existing headers cut to fit with them though.

What do you have on there now?

Dan

[PAULJAC47]

gs exhaust

I have had same probs the e will fit the g with a bit of work but be aware that the header clamps differ!.I originally used the stock down pipes brazed a 1 1/2 inch pipe into the y piece after i hacksawed off the old rusty cans and fitted some cheap after market look alikes,had loads of trouble with them, running,starting,popping through exhaust on overun no matter what i tried and guys on the site advised.I am now having made a set of stainless cans which will match the originals not cheap but a lot less than original (if you can find)and hopefully will run fine then,Here in uk i can find original l/h system but no r/h side!!!!! Good luck Paul J.......

[mdaily@comcast.net]

Thanks a bunch! This website, with all the tremendous help, makes me want to only work with GSs!

I feel very welcome

[mdaily@comcast.net]

Hi There, thanks a bunch!

The current headers are stock, but the previous owner dumped it on it's right side smashing the outer-most pipe against the engine. Mufflers look good though, but I thought I might as well searhc for the whole system.

I found a 1000E system- good one- on Craig'sList and thought maybe it would work.

I've also thought about a 4 into 1 system, but I think the centerstand needs to go at that point and I don't know the other adjustments that need to be made.

Advice?

[GS Farmer]

exhaust

Just wanted to let you know, I ran a Kerker 4-1 on a GS 1000G back in the 80's. Sold that bike , but bought another one a couple years ago, 81 1000G, and am running a Mac 4-1 on it. Fits well, and doesn't interfere with center stand. added benefits is you do away with about 30 pounds of weight, and changing the rear tire just became much easier!!! My stock system was'nt in to bad a shape, I might consider selling, as I probably won't ever go back to stock, because of the above mentioned benefits.

[salty_monk]

I have had same probs the e will fit the g with a bit of work but be aware that the header clamps differ!.I originally used the stock down pipes brazed a 1 1/2 inch pipe into the y piece after i hacksawed off the old rusty cans and fitted some cheap after market look alikes,had loads of trouble with them, running,starting,popping through exhaust on overun no matter what i tried and guys on the site advised.I am now having made a set of stainless cans which will match the originals not cheap but a lot less than original (if you can find)and hopefully will run fine then,Here in uk i can find original l/h system but no r/h side!!!!! Good luck Paul J.......

Maybe mine isn't an E exhaust then as the clamps look the same to me... maybe it's a difference in the year.

My pipes will be coming up for sale soon if you're interested. Pm me. They are in reasonable shape.

Dan