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    Ok so I have a 78 GS750B 70,000 just cleaned carbs, checked valve clearances and adjusted, replaced plugs, adjusted the Carb Air screw to 1.25 turns out as suggested, Replaced airbox boots, Adjusted point gap on f1-4 to .03mm f2-3 were at .03mm and went to start and not even a chug. What am I doing wrong? Any Idea's...... Thanks

    #2
    Prime the carbs?
    Got spark?
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      #3
      Point gap seems a bit small. You sure you have the decimal in the right place? The point gap for a '79 850 is 0.3 mm, not the 0.03 mm that you specified.

      You mention the carb air screw is set to 1.25, how about the fuel screw? Should be about .75. This is the screw on the bottom of the carb.

      After you change the point gap, prime the float bowls in the carbs. (Tkent got that in while I was typing.) When they are full, use full choke and NO throttle.

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      Last edited by Steve; 03-19-2008, 07:18 PM.
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        #4
        If your experience is anything like mine is, your battery might have dies while repairing and replacing everything else?


        Steve,
        do the carbs on an 81 gs550 have a fuel screw? Does it need to be .75 turns out as well?

        Thanks,

        Cory

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          #5
          Life for 3 mins She sounded good, then died

          Now she is driping really slow out of the #4 carb bowl. Maybe high float? When doing this my "fuel" screws were 1.25 out, should I try again with .75 ot just take carbs back off and adjust #4 float? Any other suggestions?

          BTW I got it primed good then she fired like she wanted to I am so exicted I know she can run good!

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            #6
            You can adjust floats, fuel screws with the carbs on the bike. Pull the bowls.
            runs for a few secs only? Choke on or off?
            Throttle open or closed?
            Is the throttle open too far at idle for the choke to work?
            Give better details, please!
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              #7
              Originally posted by KRISTI'SGS550 View Post
              Steve,
              do the carbs on an 81 gs550 have a fuel screw? Does it need to be .75 turns out as well?
              No. Your '81 bike had CV carbs that only have an idle mixture screw on the top of the outlet of the carb. If you are starting from scratch, start with the screws about 2 full turns out from lightly seated. Go for a bike to warm up the bike. When the bike is warmed up, adjust each screw slowly, listening for highest rpm. Re-adjust the master idle screw, if necessary, and continue with the rest of the carbs.

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              #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
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                #8
                Originally posted by Steve View Post
                No. Your '81 bike had CV carbs that only have an idle mixture screw on the top of the outlet of the carb. If you are starting from scratch, start with the screws about 2 full turns out from lightly seated. Go for a bike to warm up the bike. When the bike is warmed up, adjust each screw slowly, listening for highest rpm. Re-adjust the master idle screw, if necessary, and continue with the rest of the carbs.

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                Steve is right but for a '81 550, start at 3 turns.
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by tkent02 View Post
                  You can adjust floats, fuel screws with the carbs on the bike. Pull the bowls.
                  runs for a few secs only? Choke on or off?
                  Throttle open or closed?
                  Is the throttle open too far at idle for the choke to work?
                  Give better details, please!

                  When it ran it ran for a few mins ran steady for about 3mins, then RPMs started racing higher before she died. Thats when gas started to drip out of #4 bowl drain. I had tank set to reserve. I had choke up (I assume that means open) No throttle. I did hear a lot of air movement sounded Air was being sucked into the choke. I hope this is helpful as a description. And thanks for all of the help and support

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                    #10
                    There's no air movement with the choke, it's not a true choke, just an enrichment device which only works with the throttle closed.
                    If you hear air moving, you have a vacuum leak.
                    A vacuum leak makes it too lean at first, as it warms up and needs less fuel the mix gets better and the revs come up...

                    Or it could be running out of gas in the bowls.

                    I'd start with the petcock, just to eliminate it as a problem. Is it hooked up right and working correctly? Fuel flow sufficient? Only takes a few minutes to check it out.

                    And this leak, is it from the bowl gasket, the drain plug, or the overflow tube underneath?
                    You cleaned the carbs, did you put new orings in them too?
                    Where did you set your float levels? Did the float valves look good and did they seal?
                    Did you check the resulting fuel level in the bowl?
                    Have you downloaded the service manual yet?
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                      #11
                      I am going to check the vacuum hoses.
                      The drip is from the overflow tube on underneath the VM carbs. Slow drip maybe one every five to ten secs.
                      Petcock has issues (I think) with hoses off she She runs flows gas out on prime and reserve like turning on a hose. On on she don't leak a drop.... I am guessing that the reserve should act like the on setting is this correct?

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by altermad View Post
                        I am going to check the vacuum hoses.
                        The drip is from the overflow tube on underneath the VM carbs. Slow drip maybe one every five to ten secs.
                        Petcock has issues (I think) with hoses off she She runs flows gas out on prime and reserve like turning on a hose. On on she don't leak a drop.... I am guessing that the reserve should act like the on setting is this correct?
                        PRI should flow always.
                        ON should flow only when a vacuum is pulled on the little hose, and only with more than about a gallon of gas in the tank...
                        RES should flow with the vacuum as ON but will run until the tank is dry.

                        You probably have a weak float valve causing the drip but it should run somewhat anyway, it may fix itself as it gets to running better. Or not.
                        Last edited by tkent02; 03-20-2008, 10:40 AM.
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                          #13
                          Progress :-) ok I went out this morning and adjusted the fuel screws (on top of bowls) to .75 she started then ran like a champ with the choke on. When running she doesn't drip or leak gas. After running for a while (5mins) she needed me to play with the choke then back to full open and vroooom high rpm so closed choke a little and she started to die so I opened it back up and ran good.

                          Air noise sounds like it is comming form valve cover and also a dime size hole in the pipe from the the center stand returning.

                          closed choke it died and gas driping rather fast out of #4 bowl drain. only when bike not running? It is about 32 degree's this morning. Any ideas? I added all detail I could think of if you need more It'll be my pleasure and I apoligize in advance for anything I might have left out. Thanks

                          Also Should I fix gas leak before syncing the carbs? Sorry for the million questions.
                          Last edited by Guest; 03-20-2008, 11:13 AM. Reason: another question

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                            #14
                            Turn the crankshaft with a 19mm wrench until the points are at their widest opening. Then take a 16 thousandths feeler guage and reset the point gaps to 16 thou.

                            Earl


                            Originally posted by altermad View Post
                            Ok so I have a 78 GS750B 70,000 just cleaned carbs, checked valve clearances and adjusted, replaced plugs, adjusted the Carb Air screw to 1.25 turns out as suggested, Replaced airbox boots, Adjusted point gap on f1-4 to .03mm f2-3 were at .03mm and went to start and not even a chug. What am I doing wrong? Any Idea's...... Thanks
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by altermad View Post
                              Progress :-) ok I went out this morning and adjusted the fuel screws (on top of bowls) to .75 she started then ran like a champ with the choke on. When running she doesn't drip or leak gas. After running for a while (5mins) she needed me to play with the choke then back to full open and vroooom high rpm so closed choke a little and she started to die so I opened it back up and ran good.

                              Air noise sounds like it is comming form valve cover and also a dime size hole in the pipe from the the center stand returning.

                              closed choke it died and gas driping rather fast out of #4 bowl drain. only when bike not running? It is about 32 degree's this morning. Any ideas? I added all detail I could think of if you need more It'll be my pleasure and I apoligize in advance for anything I might have left out. Thanks

                              Also Should I fix gas leak before syncing the carbs? Sorry for the million questions.

                              Thanks Earl got the bike starting \\/ just these other questions now.

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