Front tire (Tubes in a tubeless tire?)

[spadefoot]

I need a front tire for my 82 650gl. One of my friends who rides (I'm new to this) suggests running tubes in a tubeless tire as as sort of belt and suspenders approach. Anyone have any thoughts on this?

[DanTheMan]

My front tire currently has a tube in it, but the next time I replace it, I'm dumping the tube. The tire will run cooler, less problems, why put a tube in a cast steel rim made for tubeless tires anyway"???:-D

[paco13]

I thought all the GS' come with tubes. Some have and do get away without tubes on the mags but some don't. Depends on the porosity of the alloy I guess. I would and do run tubes in all GS wheels.
I think the rule is you can run tubes in tubeless tiresand wheels, but can't run tube type tires tubeless because of the bead/rim design.

[salty_monk]

Some GS Mags are tubeless compatible, it says on the rim. My 80 has a tubeless compatible rear but not front.

My 78 has tube type front & rear. I'm running tubes in my 80 right now & will probably continue to do so.

Dan

[DanTheMan]

My rim is stamped "tubeless". My Dad put tubeless tires on our '59 Fiat 600 Multipla in '61, he was always forward thinking. No problem; I will replace the next tire with a Perelli Scorpion tubeless again, and no tube this time......:-D

I thought all the GS' come with tubes. Some have and do get away without tubes on the mags but some don't. Depends on the porosity of the alloy I guess. I would and do run tubes in all GS wheels.
I think the rule is you can run tubes in tubeless tiresand wheels, but can't run tube type tires tubeless because of the bead/rim design.

[Steve]

I need a front tire for my 82 650gl. One of my friends who rides (I'm new to this) suggests running tubes in a tubeless tire as as sort of belt and suspenders approach. Anyone have any thoughts on this?

There are a couple of problems with that approach.
1. Possible heat build-up with the two items flexing on each other needlessly.
2. Concering the 'belt and suspenders' mentality...if your suspenders break, you will know it. If your belt breaks, you will know it. If you run over a nail and punctue your tube, you probably won't know it because the tire will hold the air until you find the nail and pull it out. Therefore, you won't know you have a problem until the second time you have one.

Look at your rims. If they are marked for tubeless applications, go ahead and do it.
If they are not marked for tubeless, you will be taking a chance, but many do get away with it.

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[spadefoot]

OK, my front rim is marked for tubeless. The tire that's on there right now is marked as a: 90/90-19 52H

So far, I've had not much luck finding that size. What would work for my bike (gs650 gl)? I'm looking for something that will wear pretty well, not looking for anything super sporty...

[derwood]

tubeless tires are easier to fix ....with plugs,

[earlfor]

I have used tubless tires without tubes on every GS model I have owned with zero problems. The only GS I did not was the one I had that had spoked rims.
and if I had kept it, I would have sealed the rims so I could run tubeless tires on it too.

Earl

[Zooks]

tubeless tires are easier to fix ....with plugs,

Ditto. Plugs are brilliant.

[Nessism]

OK, my front rim is marked for tubeless. The tire that's on there right now is marked as a: 90/90-19 52H

So far, I've had not much luck finding that size. What would work for my bike (gs650 gl)? I'm looking for something that will wear pretty well, not looking for anything super sporty...

100/90 is standard replacement for the folks around here. Although some people bash them the GSR collective has lots of favorable things to say about the Cheng Shin Highmax tires. Dirt cheap too. JC Whitney sells them. http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/I...D:100000209177

[Steve]

I will agree with the Cheng Shin Hi-Max being a good tire. I am about to replace the one on my wife's bike (850L) that has 14,000+ miles on it.
There is still some tread, but the rear is worn out so I am replacing them as a set.

Besides JC Whitney, you can get them at Tires Unlimited.
The stock size might be 90/90-19, but if you install 100/90-19, you will find that your speedometer will read almost perfectly. \\/

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[saddlewarmer]

Bought my himax tires through chapparral motorsports. had the best price i could find.

[spadefoot]

Thanks! Ordered one just now.

As a side note, ig got the bike to start for me today... it will only run for about 1.5-2 second before cutting out, but it does start up!

[SPARKSS]

I need a front tire for my 82 650gl. One of my friends who rides (I'm new to this) suggests running tubes in a tubeless tire as as sort of belt and suspenders approach. Anyone have any thoughts on this?

I've always run tubes in the tires of all my bikes - both out of necessity (spoke rims) and for the same reason as your buddy suggests. I figure you only have 2 wheels and it's not an easy coast to a stop sometimes on a bike - new tires always get new tubes.....I have patched to get myself back on home territory or when a tire or tube wasn't available but don't make a habit of it (on bikes).
I've never had issues with tires heating or failing prematurely due to them.
What can I say - my new bike has spoke wheels, tubeless tires with tubes in them......from the factory.