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    HELP !! 1985 GS700ES stock airbox install HELP !!!

    Ok so I found a stock airbox for my bike and went to install it... What the @#$@#@^%....

    How in the %$#@*&&^&^ do you get it in...

    I took off the gas tank (check) I removed all four intake gaskets/mainfolds. and now i've tried to push,squeeze,etc... NO luck ! Break time.. any hints tricks or whatever someone can explain to this very frustrated person.

    #2
    I've been told you have to drop the engine to do it... yeah, it kinda sucks.

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      #3
      air box.... pain

      are you serious !!! I kept looking at it and thats what I kept thinking but thought no that can't be, nobody in there Design right mind would make it that hard but I think your right.... $#%%$# it....

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        #4
        I have a 80 750L all you have to do is drop the carbs and it will slide rite in. When I was trying to put on pod filters I came across the same problem. I know you dont want to take the carb (like Me) but its the only way. PS dont drop the motor.

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          #5
          Originally posted by cbrophy22 View Post
          I have a 80 750L all you have to do is drop the carbs and it will slide rite in. When I was trying to put on pod filters I came across the same problem. I know you dont want to take the carb (like Me) but its the only way. PS dont drop the motor.
          Big difference in the two bikes

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            #6
            Putting in the stock airbox can be very tough, especially when you have about a 1/4" of clearance, and no more. I recommend using Vasoline
            petroleum jelly, or lithium grease. It works very well and goes in very
            smooth and easy.

            Lubricate the O-rings on the intake manifiod "boots", and the O-rings on the air box and the intake side of the carbs where the air box mates.
            Make sure you have both the throttle and choke cables already installed.

            In time, it will become very easy for you after a few times taking the
            box on and off. The lubricant really helps. I could not see you doing
            it any other way. Vaseline has many great uses. It is a wonder lube
            for very tight projects !!

            :-D\\/

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              #7
              I've actually put the stock airbox back in - in less than 5-minutes.
              It can be done if you work it and use enough lube as mentioned.
              And it is easier to put it back on then it is to take it out.

              :-D\\/

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                #8
                Really are you sure ....

                lube huh... i keep running into a clearance issue. I really dont want to drop the motor but again it looks like the only way.

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                  #9
                  I put that thing in before I rack the carbs...if the carbs are in there already pull them out and secure the air box first then squeeze the if your tryign to get them past already racked carbs you are really going to have a hell o fa time.. jus tpull the carbs and bolt the guy up then re-install the carbs...

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                    #10
                    81 550e
                    i found by disconnecting the battery box , it would move towards the rear wheel about 1" which gave a bit more room to fit the air box, rubbers, and carbs on the bike, worth a try eh

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                      #11
                      I've never heard of anyone having to drop a motor just to put in a stock
                      air box. This is absurd and unnecessary. It does not sound right especially
                      on a stock machine as yours is. I think you may be making this a complete hassle than it is made out to be.

                      The GS1100esd and your GS700es may be identical engineered machines. They the same, share the same wheels and swingarm, and the frame maybe a little different but the design is very close. I've taken this stock
                      airbox out many times, and again, with Vasoline or lithium grease, the
                      carbs easily comes right out, then the air box comes out. The box has to come out from the top of the frame. You may have to twist it out at
                      an angle - it will come out.

                      Smart Japanese motorcycle engineers would not design a bike where you cannot take the airbox out nor have t resort to jacking-up the frame
                      and to remove your engine just to take an airbox out. It is ridiculous !!

                      Reminds of my first car I had - a 1967 Mercury Couger hardtop. My first American car..........and my last. It had a 390 V8 engine in it. It was so poorly engineered, that I had to loosen the motor mounts, jack-up the motor JUST TO REPLACE MY SPARK PLUGS. Outragous, but this is the thinking and mindset of crap to the consumer. But these older Suzuki
                      GS bikes are well-engineered. They had you -the consumer- in mind
                      regarding this carbureter and airbox issues.

                      Just try to work on it a little longer with sweat equity and patience.
                      I would hate for you to remove your motor just to remove your air box,
                      as there is a solution for this.

                      :-D\\/

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                        #12
                        I'll give anybody $50 if they can remove and install a stock GS700 airbox without either pulling the engine, or cutting the box in half, installing it, then epoxying it back together.

                        It can't be done without doing one of the above. Even with all the carb boots removed.
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                        SUZUKI:
                        1978 GS1000E; 1980 GS1000G; 1982 GS650E; 1982 GS1100G; 1982 GS1100E; 1985 GS700ES
                        HONDA: 1981 CB900F Super Sport
                        KAWASAKI: 1981 KZ550A-2; 1984 ZX750A-2 (aka GPZ750); 1984 KZ700A-1
                        YAMAHA: 1983 XJ750RK Seca

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by jadesystem View Post
                          The GS1100esd and your GS700es may be identical engineered machines. They the same, share the same wheels and swingarm, and the frame maybe a little different but the design is very close. I've taken this stock
                          airbox out many times, and again, with Vasoline or lithium grease, the
                          carbs easily comes right out, then the air box comes out. The box has to come out from the top of the frame. You may have to twist it out at
                          an angle - it will come out.
                          They are completely different machines, with no common parts other than the front fairing and a few fasteners. Heck, the 700 is a monoshock and the 1100 is a twin shock. The airboxes look nothing alike, and fit into the frames differently.
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                          SUZUKI:
                          1978 GS1000E; 1980 GS1000G; 1982 GS650E; 1982 GS1100G; 1982 GS1100E; 1985 GS700ES
                          HONDA: 1981 CB900F Super Sport
                          KAWASAKI: 1981 KZ550A-2; 1984 ZX750A-2 (aka GPZ750); 1984 KZ700A-1
                          YAMAHA: 1983 XJ750RK Seca

                          Free speech is the foundation of an open society. Each time a society bans a word or phrase it deems “offensive”, it chips away at that very foundation upon which it was built.

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                            #14
                            Yes, and wow, I think you are correct. the GS700es is a mono-shock,
                            as I've only seen these rare bikes only on one occassion - here in the
                            bay area last month for only $400 !! Yes, only $400 and he still has it.

                            Very odd air box set-up you have. What a hassle you're in. It maybe
                            best to convert to individual air pods if this is going to be a future issue down the road. It does not make any sense for Suzuki to design such
                            an airbox where removing and servicing the carb is near impossible !!

                            What a compete hassle - I feel for you !! I would try to redesign it
                            so you can have easy access. Cut it, and make it accessable to slide
                            out. I cannot see what you are doing, but can imagine this as I write.
                            If my 1100 was designed like your bike, I would tear into it to make
                            it more maintenance-friendly as a plug and play.

                            :-D\\/

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                              #15
                              If you're intentions are to retain the airbox, then I would just cut it, remove it, and reengineer the box with a clip and fasteners with new insulation to seal the halves. Or just remove the motor if you feel this
                              is the only way out.

                              Man, what a hassle !! You're the first I've heard of with the airbox
                              removal issue !!

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