What IS this thingy?

[Escobarclan]

OK! I GIVE! UNCLE!

Can anyone tell me what this is? It's labeled "Suzuki 374-6" on top. I feel like a total idiot.

[chef1366]

That is the infamous self cancelling turn signal box.

[Escobarclan]

Self cancelling?

I know where my blinker unit is, what does this thingy do? Turn off the blinkers after some time?

[chef1366]

They are supposed to turn off while rolling after a minute or so. Mine actually still works. There is a sensor in the speedo that tells that box to shut off while the speedo is moving.

[Steve]

They are supposed to turn off while rolling after a minute or so. ...

Well, it may seem like a minute if you are waiting for it to do its thing, but here is a quote from my Clymer manual:

The self-cancelling turn signal system consists of a control unit and a speedometer-mounted speed sensor used in conjunction with a turn signal relay. After the turn signal system has been engaged it should cancel within about 9-10 seconds when a speed of approximately 15 kph (9 mph) has been reached.

This means that if you are rolling very slowly or sitting at a light, the signals will stay on indefinitely. When you get up to speed after going around the corner, they will cancel. When already at speed and signalling a lane change, 10 seconds will get you about 15 or so flashes on the turn signal. Seems like forever, but you can cancel it manually, too.

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[Escobarclan]

Ok, has anyone here taken the unit off? I sure would like to get rid of it. Do all the wires in it run parallel straight into the sigs, or is this another suzy wiring spectacle that I need a scientist for?

[Steve]

Why do you want to get rid of it? It's not that heavy, so removal won't improve performance that much.

If the whole "auto-cancel" bit bothers you, just control your signals manually.

Yes, there are people that have removed them because they did not work. I don't know if any special adaptations are required in the event of removal. If you do remove it, I'll make you an offer to have it as a spare unit for my two bikes that use one.

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[Escobarclan]

I don't know if you've seen any pics of my Kat, but my aim is to make her as simple as possible, and eliminating any non essential wires from the harness.

My biggest vise with any project is cosmetic, and wiring. My harness will end up being more simplistic, bundled up neat with the right wrap and end to end laser labeling, all new connectors soldered and cased. All this is gonna happen when I take the frame in for painting (black).

What I may end up having to do is taking out all the sig wiring and putting in a new system, but with an LED blinker unit and t. sigs. She's got a-ways to go, but we're getting there.

[drhach]

It's pretty easy to bypass. Get a schematic. Trace the wires on the schematic, you'll see. However, you swill have to control the signals manually afterwards. At least that is true on my bike (78 GS1000). That's no biggie though.

[doctorgonzo]

It's pretty easy to bypass. Get a schematic. Trace the wires on the schematic, you'll see. However, you swill have to control the signals manually afterwards. At least that is true on my bike (78 GS1000). That's no biggie though.

Most of the time I get tired of waiting for it to turn off and do it manually anyway.

[Planecrazy]

Mine still works perfectly ... Every once in awhile I even forget to flip off the signals, so it's nice to have the automatic fallback. The only caveat is that on the highway signaling for an exit I know I have to repeatedly hit the signal to "reset" the cycle and keep the light flashing until I want it off. This has become "automatic" for me now so I don't even give it a thought.

I'd leave it on if it's working, but if you DO decide to remove it be sure to offer it up here for sale ... somebody will probably want it! I have no idea what the going rate is for these things, though.

Regards,