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    Update: Still no engine speed over 2K RPM

    I replaced the fuel line this morning to remove the fuel filter from the bike. Started the bike on choke after putting the bike back together, when I turned off the choke bike would idle at about 1100 rpm, I could rev the engine to about 2K. When I would release the throttle, engine would drop to about 1500 rpm then slowly work down to 1100 again. Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

    For those not familiar with my current plight, here is the thread:

    This forum contains old posts which may have information which may be useful. It is a closed forum in that you can not post here any longer. Please post your questions in the other technical forums.

    #2
    Sounds like your carbs are not getting enough fuel. Maybe a petcock issue? Pull off the lines and check the petcock function. Also make sure your tank is properly venting. Search function will turn up lots of different threads on how to check these items.

    Good luck.
    Ed

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      #3
      If you have access to an igniter try to switch them out. (Not to light the bike on fire but the ignition igniter)
      Do you have an electronic advance or mechanical.
      1983 GS 1100E w/ 1230 kit, .340 lift Web Cams, Ape heavy duty valve springs, 83 1100 head with 1.5mm oversized SS intake valves, 1150 crank, Vance and Hines 1150 SuperHub, Star Racing high volume oil pump gears, 36mm carebs Dynojet stage 3 jet kit, Posplayr's SSPB, Progressive rear shocks and fork springs, Dyna 2000, Dynatek green coils and Vance & Hines 4-1 exhaust.
      1985 GS1150ES stock with 85 Red E bodywork.

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        #4
        Test update

        Ok, after seeing the first post and doing a search I tried to remove the fuel cap and run the bike. I started the bike, and this made no difference. I then put the petcock on prime from run, again could not rev the engine over 2k rpm.

        When you say try replacing the igniter, do you mean the CDI unit? If so, is there another way to test, as I don't have access to one other then the one of the bike.

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          #5
          bump

          Still trying to find out what this issue is. So I am trying to get this post on the first page.

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            #6
            If it only runs while idling, or with the choke on, maybe all the other carb circuits are clogged?

            Main and needle jets, lots of tiny passages can get gooped up.
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              #7
              Originally posted by tkent02 View Post
              If it only runs while idling, or with the choke on, maybe all the other carb circuits are clogged?

              Main and needle jets, lots of tiny passages can get gooped up.
              Would something like that start out as intermittent? As I said in the original post, it started this bogging intermittently, it would bog down while riding along, or when starting from a stop. Then Sunday after an initial bogging when starting a charity run, the bike ran fine the rest of the day, no issues at all. Next morning it was fine going to work, but at lunch it started the bogging down again, and has not been able to run above 2k rpm since.

              I removed the fuel filter, per suggestions in the first post on this issue. This seems to have made no difference. I tried without the fuel cap on the bike to rule out the tank vent being the issue. I tried the petcock on both prime and on, this made no difference either. One thing I didn't try was to disconnect the vacuum line from the petcock and plug it to prevent lean running while on prime. I will try that tomorrow I guess along with any other suggestions I can get from this posting.

              Again, for those not up to speed, the bike is an 82 gs1100gl 25k miles, replaced wiring harness , fuse box and starter clutch/rotor assembly. New parts include stator, both handle bar switches and r/r. Bike was bought in November with 23.5k on the clock.

              Again I want to thank everyone for their help.

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                #8
                lose of power

                If you have the advance spark counter weights,remove the right cover and remove the spark generator plate and check to see if you can spring the weights. Rust from condensation can freeze up the pivots and springs.They should spring back and fourth.
                Hope this helps. Dirty carbs

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by cmart45 View Post
                  If you have the advance spark counter weights,remove the right cover and remove the spark generator plate and check to see if you can spring the weights. Rust from condensation can freeze up the pivots and springs.They should spring back and fourth.
                  Hope this helps. Dirty carbs

                  I can't tell, does my model have a machanical advance, or is it built into the CDI unit( labeled 1 in picture)

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                    #10
                    Nope you have an electronic advance.
                    I would check the igniter next.
                    1983 GS 1100E w/ 1230 kit, .340 lift Web Cams, Ape heavy duty valve springs, 83 1100 head with 1.5mm oversized SS intake valves, 1150 crank, Vance and Hines 1150 SuperHub, Star Racing high volume oil pump gears, 36mm carebs Dynojet stage 3 jet kit, Posplayr's SSPB, Progressive rear shocks and fork springs, Dyna 2000, Dynatek green coils and Vance & Hines 4-1 exhaust.
                    1985 GS1150ES stock with 85 Red E bodywork.

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                      #11
                      For the heck of it, put in some Seafoam :-D. Solves a lot of problems if you havent already done that.

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                        #12
                        How long has it been since you have synchronized your carburetors?

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by chef1366 View Post
                          Nope you have an electronic advance.
                          I would check the igniter next.
                          When you say igniter, are you talking about the "black box" of the ignition system? What is labeled 1 in the fiche posted above?

                          Is there a way to go about testing the unit? I don't have an other one currently on hand to just swap out as a test, and at $400+ I am not going to buy one if I don't know for sure that it is no good.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Johnny K View Post
                            For the heck of it, put in some Seafoam :-D. Solves a lot of problems if you havent already done that.
                            I have been putting seafoam in the gas since I bought the bike in November. So if anything I am thinking that the bike might have been adjusted to run with partially blocked ports that have now opened back up.

                            Originally posted by Schweisshund View Post
                            How long has it been since you have synchronized your carburetors?
                            I got the bike in November, it was running fine when I bought it, at least till it starting blowing main fuses due to bad wiring. I have been dealing with electrical hell since January, followed by the starter clutch bolt shearing off gouging the rotor. So I have never done anything with the carburetors other then put seafoam in the fuel.

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                              #15
                              Update

                              Ok, I pulled the vacuum hose from the petcock, started the bike. Made no difference to the way the bike as been running, other then it is going back to intermittent. I would be able to get the bike to rev though the RPM range, but then it would bog down and max out 2k - 3k. I also checked the connections to the CDI, they seem to be tight.

                              Does anyone know if a way to test the CDI other then just swapping out the unit? I don't have $400 to buy a new unit, and going to a bone yard doesn't guarantee a working unit.

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