GS1000 slide needles

[rudy]

Just wondering if anyone knows where to get replacement slide needles for the stock 78 VM's. Might be a good idea, as the original ones aren't real great as I remember. Some of the coating is coming off of one or two of them. I'm sure it'll start and run when I get it all back together, but could make it a little more rich than desired.

Any ideas, lemme know.

Rudy

[TheCafeKid]

Doubtfull. But, if you really want them, find the size, i have some needles floating around here from VMs. they're for 750s, but I dont think the needle sizes were all that different. Could be wrong.

[SqDancerLynn1]

Dealer ?? or www.sudco.com
The slide itself ? It would need to be replated

[TheCafeKid]

Dealer ?? or www.sudco.com

Doubt you'll get them thru a dealer either. The old VMs had adjustable needles on them, not sure if even sudco sells such a thing anymore, or i think people would have been finding compatables for the CVs, which are not that different other than the not adjustable part...

[salty_monk]

You could use the needles from a dynojet kit.... diff taper but should work ok if you get the height right.

Dan

[TheCafeKid]

You could use the needles from a dynojet kit.... diff taper but should work ok if you get the height right.

Dan

Dunno how they would mate with the stock jets, they measured the jets differently as you prolly know. HOWEVER, there IS a DynoJet kit for that bike...not for my 750 which more or less uses the same carbs, not the jets...the bastages...

[renobruce]

I have a set that were taken out of my carbs when I installed the DJ kit. PM me if you still need them.

[TheCafeKid]

Not trying to deter you from using the stock needles, and not trying to knock down a potential sale for you Bruce, but if the Kit is available, I say use it, especially if you're going to do pods and a pipe. Jetting those VMs by hand is a FEMALE DOG! Trust me, I know all too well. I *JUST* finally got my jetting where it should be I think.... I think.... Everytime you take those carbs down to change the needle position you'll have to re bench sync and resync since the slide assembly and throttle arm have to come out. Its a PITA

[renobruce]

Not trying to deter you from using the stock needles, and not trying to knock down a potential sale for you Bruce, but if the Kit is available, I say use it, especially if you're going to do pods and a pipe. Jetting those VMs by hand is a FEMALE DOG! Trust me, I know all too well. I *JUST* finally got my jetting where it should be I think.... I think.... Everytime you take those carbs down to change the needle position you'll have to re bench sync and resync since the slide assembly and throttle arm have to come out. Its a PITA

I would agree. If you are going with pipe and pods, buy the DJ kit. PERIOD. If you are leaving it stock, I have some nice needles.

[rudy]

Just thought I would check how my question was coming along. WOW!! Didn't know there was a heated debate going on!

Carbs MIGHT have a kit already since it has a Kerker 4-1. I wrote down the jetting info, but forget it now. It's in my "GS1000" box on the shelf. Will check tonight. Will check to make sure they're Mikuni jets too, as that will tell all pretty quickly. Needles might be stock, might not be. Can't really say, though if they are, I'll take up Bruce on his offer.

I plan on keeping the stock airbox and all that nice stuff, but getting the stock fitting K&N that Z1 offers for the bike (current filter is fubared). Would I need to go with a stage 2 for this or something, or does it make much of a difference?

What would I be looking at for cost if I went with the DJ kit? Also, I'm too lazy to go look for a place that sells them, where would I go? To DJ themselves?

Rudy

[renobruce]

Just thought I would check how my question was coming along. WOW!! Didn't know there was a heated debate going on!

Carbs MIGHT have a kit already since it has a Kerker 4-1. I wrote down the jetting info, but forget it now. It's in my "GS1000" box on the shelf. Will check tonight. Will check to make sure they're Mikuni jets too, as that will tell all pretty quickly. Needles might be stock, might not be. Can't really say, though if they are, I'll take up Bruce on his offer.

I plan on keeping the stock airbox and all that nice stuff, but getting the stock fitting K&N that Z1 offers for the bike (current filter is fubared). Would I need to go with a stage 2 for this or something, or does it make much of a difference?

What would I be looking at for cost if I went with the DJ kit? Also, I'm too lazy to go look for a place that sells them, where would I go? To DJ themselves?

Rudy

If you plan on keeping the stock airbox, the DJ kit will be overkill. They don't make a stage 1 kit forthe 1000 (which is what you would want), only a stage 3. So you will need to adjust your stock parts to get the jetting right.

[hampshirehog]

Try these guys - never failed me yet with Mikuni parts:

http://www.allensperformance.co.uk/index.html

[rudy]

If you plan on keeping the stock airbox, the DJ kit will be overkill. They don't make a stage 1 kit forthe 1000 (which is what you would want), only a stage 3. So you will need to adjust your stock parts to get the jetting right.

So, you'd say they're stock then, so would I as they look to be Mikuni to me. Don't think I want to go for pods just to go for the stage 3. I like low end torque too much. Big difference from my XS400 w/pods and pipes to my stock 650, even taking into account the engine size and weight difference. The 400 screams at higher revs though .

So what you want for those spare needles you have Bruce?

[TheCafeKid]

Stock Mikuni anything in the carbs will be stamped with the square inside a square logo. If its got it, its at least Mikuni, and probably stock.


Bruce have I been misinformed? I was led to believe a Stage 3 kit contained all that is needed in a stage 1 kit as well?

[renobruce]

Stock Mikuni anything in the carbs will be stamped with the square inside a square logo. If its got it, its at least Mikuni, and probably stock.


Bruce have I been misinformed? I was led to believe a Stage 3 kit contained all that is needed in a stage 1 kit as well?

With the VM carbs, they only offer stage 3 for the 1000. Most kits DO offer either stage 1 or 3.