2 questions in the form of 4 pictures

[shadowfist]

question 1:

when I was trying to get at my stator I pulled off the bars with three bolts like so:


afterwards, i found this peice on the ground. never heared it hit though... i found a picture of it in the manual, but not where it came from, where did it come from? there dont seem to be any gaps or anything so i am baffled...



Second question...

which one is my R/R?
this? (stuck to the bottom of my battery cage)



or this? (stuck to the side of my battery cage)

[tkent02]

That's the nut for the bolt you pulled out, the one under the engine.
Stick your face under there and look up, there's no room for a wrench so they shaped it like that. Just stick it up in it's hole, put in the bolt, torque it down.
Very easy.

[mriddle]

Your 3rd pic from the top (under the battery) is your regulator .. 4th is your rectifier.

Later bikes had them combined into one unit (usually referred to as regulator/rectifier or r/r).

[Billy Ricks]

You have a seperate regualtor and a seperate rectifier. The one under the battery box is the regulator and the one on the side is the rectifier.

[Billy Ricks]

mriddle beat me to it. What he said.

[shadowfist]

so, could i use a combined R/R unit? or do i have to get them separately? and for all you savvy folks... are those both stock? I am pretty sure the regulator is stock, but i don't know about the rectifier and since i have 2 units instead of one... which one is the bad part that fries my stators per the stator papers?

oh and BTW question 1: i thought that might be the case, but it looks like my cage thing was broken or bent in a fall so they had to re-weld a fastener onto the frame for it to attach to, seems like the bolt is not needed... but that doesn't explain where it came from

[SqDancerLynn1]

with some wiring changes you can use the combo unit Very easy change

[Steve]

Did you digest all that info?

Basically, you don't have an R/R, you have an R/ and an /R.

Also, that little piece that fell is the nut for the bottom bolt that holds the case saver. By the way, that's also an engine mount, so make sure it's snug.

.

[shadowfist]

yeah i absorbed that, just a few more questions.

1: I read that the R/R problem didn't matter if it was one unit or two as they are the same components and both varieties suffer the same problem. is it possible that only one component is bad?

2: if only one component is bad, are there seperate regulators or rectifiers that i could find so that i only have to replace a single unit?

3: i'm pretty sure that i will have to replace both. now seince i am on a pretty tight budget what would the best way to go be? i have found the 3rd party one for (gasp) $95 instead of $99. would finding a R/R from another bike be more eccenomical (like a honda R/R)?

[egent]

3: i'm pretty sure that i will have to replace both. now seince i am on a pretty tight budget what would the best way to go be? i have found the 3rd party one for (gasp) $95 instead of $99. would finding a R/R from another bike be more eccenomical (like a honda R/R)?

Yes, you will be much better off getting the honda r/r. There is a member here that sells them for for $40 shipped I believe. His name is duaneage send him a PM to see if he has any in stock.

[rustybronco]

3: i'm pretty sure that i will have to replace both. now since i am on a pretty tight budget what would the best way to go be?

The best way to go, would be to find out if anything is wrong first. then decide.

[shadowfist]

one more question on top of all the others...

since i have 2 units instead of one R/R... how do i interpret the flowchart on the stator papers?

[rustybronco]

The first thing needed is what bike? (put it in your siggy line)

[shadowfist]

there we go, added
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V down there

[rustybronco]

Thank you...

I have never worked on a separate rectifier / regulator combo, so until someone that has worked on one comes along, bear with me.

disconnect the three wires from the stator going to the rectifier, check the resistance across the three windings as per the stator papers (<.5 ohm, >1.0 ohm ??) . then check stator to ground for a short to ground (<100k ??).
fire up the bike with the stator still disconnected and check the A.C. voltage @5,000 RPM coming from the stator. it should be around 70+ volts.

if it passes those tests, I will try to scrounge up a wiring diagram to help you further diagnose the rectifier...