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    Hello,
    While cleaning the carbs on my '81 450T i noticed the pilot jets are marked 22.5. My manual says stock was 17.5. I don't run pods and my exhaust is stock. Can anyone think why the PO may have done this? And will this increase fuel consumption?
    Thanks for looking.
    P.S.
    I dipped 'em

    #2
    It will increase fuel consumption.
    Pull the spark plugs. Are they dark?
    1983 GS 1100E w/ 1230 kit, .340 lift Web Cams, Ape heavy duty valve springs, 83 1100 head with 1.5mm oversized SS intake valves, 1150 crank, Vance and Hines 1150 SuperHub, Star Racing high volume oil pump gears, 36mm carebs Dynojet stage 3 jet kit, Posplayr's SSPB, Progressive rear shocks and fork springs, Dyna 2000, Dynatek green coils and Vance & Hines 4-1 exhaust.
    1985 GS1150ES stock with 85 Red E bodywork.

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      #3
      PO's often do this thinking more gas means higher horsepower gains.

      It doesn't unless paired with equal amounts of air flow ie: pods, free flow exhaust, cams etc.

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        #4
        Originally posted by rlong74 View Post
        Hello,
        While cleaning the carbs on my '81 450T i noticed the pilot jets are marked 22.5. My manual says stock was 17.5. I don't run pods and my exhaust is stock. Can anyone think why the PO may have done this? And will this increase fuel consumption?
        Thanks for looking.
        P.S.
        I dipped 'em

        A step up in pilot jet size won't increase fuel consumption so much that it would be that noticeable.

        You don't have pods but do you have a K&N air filter? How does the bike idle and run in the 1/8 - 1/4 throttle range? And as stated, are your plugs black and sooty or tan/brown? Does the bike bog just off idle or does it respond crisp and quick? Also check the turns on the pilot fuel/air screw. How many turns out?

        If the bike is running good and the plugs are burning tan/brown, then leave it the way it is.

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          #5
          carb kits....yuchhh

          I suspect that it happens pretty often because someone uses a 'carb kit' that is either not the right one or one that contains parts for several different models.
          1980 GS1100E....Number 15!

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            #6
            I'd think it was to make the bike start better. Some of these old GS's were very lean on the pilot circuit & were hard to start without a lot of choke, the larger pilots make them start much easier. the fuel consumption will be so slight, you would never know, even if you stayed at a Holiday INN Express last night. If the mains were 2 sizes larger than stock, you may notice, lower mpg.
            1983 GS1100E, 1983 CB1100F, 1991 GSX1100G, 1996 Kaw. ZL600 Eliminator, 1999 Bandit 1200S, 2005 Bandit 1200S, 2000 Kaw. ZRX 1100

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              #7
              screwed up

              I've bought bikes, twice, that didn't have all of the right jets....and they didn't run worth a damn until I put in the correct ones.
              1980 GS1100E....Number 15!

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                #8
                Originally posted by don_gibb6512 View Post
                A step up in pilot jet size won't increase fuel consumption so much that it would be that noticeable.

                You don't have pods but do you have a K&N air filter? How does the bike idle and run in the 1/8 - 1/4 throttle range? And as stated, are your plugs black and sooty or tan/brown? Does the bike bog just off idle or does it respond crisp and quick? Also check the turns on the pilot fuel/air screw. How many turns out?

                If the bike is running good and the plugs are burning tan/brown, then leave it the way it is.
                I have a stock air filter.. The bike idles fine when cool but hangs when hot. It will come back down with just a light tap on the throttle or slowly sometimes on it's own.. It does respond crisp and quick. It is presently 1 1/2 turns on the screw and the plugs are the tan/brown color.
                Thank you all for your input. Once again this site has proved invaluable.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by rphillips View Post
                  ... even if you stayed at a Holiday INN Express last night. ...
                  Gee, I wonder what that says about my qualifications?

                  I spent a whole MONTH there just a few weeks ago.

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