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    HELP, A valve job....?

    I am working on getting my 16v head ready for my rebuild. I planned on using grinding compound as the valves didnt look so bad (or so I thought) But, the exhaust valves are quite pitted. So, I asked my local machine shop for a quote on a valve job. They said $250. I understood that would include making all the valves installed height the same. Is that pricey? How far would my $250 bucks go towards my own valve job equipment?

    #2
    Originally posted by gearhead13 View Post
    I am working on getting my 16v head ready for my rebuild. I planned on using grinding compound as the valves didnt look so bad (or so I thought) But, the exhaust valves are quite pitted. So, I asked my local machine shop for a quote on a valve job. They said $250. I understood that would include making all the valves installed height the same. Is that pricey? How far would my $250 bucks go towards my own valve job equipment?
    I would look for a shop that specializes in bike engines, there are a few on this forum that will do it right.

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      #3
      Originally posted by tkent02 View Post
      I would look for a shop that specializes in bike engines, there are a few on this forum that will do it right.

      Shipping is not that much.
      The nearest shop that specializes in bikes is out of town. This is the only shop in town that actually has the equipment to do the work.

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        #4
        So ship it to APE or someone.

        It's better than doing it twice.
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          #5
          Originally posted by gearhead13 View Post
          How far would my $250 bucks go towards my own valve job equipment?
          Pretty far. You could get a valve seat cutter, micrometer set, valve spring tool, etc for about that much. Then you have to learn how to do it right. And what would you do with the tools afterwards?

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            #6
            Are the valves pitted or the seats? Valves are easy enough to replace.
            1983 GS 1100E w/ 1230 kit, .340 lift Web Cams, Ape heavy duty valve springs, 83 1100 head with 1.5mm oversized SS intake valves, 1150 crank, Vance and Hines 1150 SuperHub, Star Racing high volume oil pump gears, 36mm carebs Dynojet stage 3 jet kit, Posplayr's SSPB, Progressive rear shocks and fork springs, Dyna 2000, Dynatek green coils and Vance & Hines 4-1 exhaust.
            1985 GS1150ES stock with 85 Red E bodywork.

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              #7
              One valve is pitted to the point where it may not be too good to grind it out. One of the seats has a pit in it. I havent had to lap valves so much to get a good seat, and I dont know how much is too much.
              BTW, I am in Victoria BC, as it shows on my postings.
              Richard

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                #8
                Originally posted by tkent02 View Post
                So ship it to APE or someone.

                It's better than doing it twice.
                Ya, I have dealt with APE before, and NEVER again

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by gearhead13 View Post
                  Ya, I have dealt with APE before, and NEVER again
                  ???? Do tell.
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                    #10
                    How deep is the pit on the one exhaust seat?
                    1983 GS 1100E w/ 1230 kit, .340 lift Web Cams, Ape heavy duty valve springs, 83 1100 head with 1.5mm oversized SS intake valves, 1150 crank, Vance and Hines 1150 SuperHub, Star Racing high volume oil pump gears, 36mm carebs Dynojet stage 3 jet kit, Posplayr's SSPB, Progressive rear shocks and fork springs, Dyna 2000, Dynatek green coils and Vance & Hines 4-1 exhaust.
                    1985 GS1150ES stock with 85 Red E bodywork.

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                      #11
                      I can do it for 225.00 + parts + return shipping & that will be a radiused valve job (better than 3 angle) & the head cleaned & boxed to ship back. I will need 1 GOOD intake valve & 1 GOOD exhaust valve. Turn around from when I get it to when it leaves about 5-7 days. If you send me ALL the parts I'll reassemble also, including lapping valves, for 300. Let me know if you're interested. Ray.

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                        #12
                        Generally, I would rather order online than call long distance to place an order, but i called APE over a month ago to order a piston kit, gave my credit card number and everything and it seemed like it went well. Then they couldnt confirm my address through their incompetence or outdated equipment, so I had to scan my drivers license, visa statement and card and email it to them. They then had cancelled my original order and I had to wait for the money to be put back on the card, another week. They wouldnt email me the tracking number, so I had to call several times to get it(long distance), no toll-free. So, it took about 6 weeks to get here and i had to pay UPS another $140 when it arrived. If a company sends packages properly, there is no need to have to pay anthing but GST @6% or so. Now, I just can't wait to get the phone bill to see how much more its gonna cost me. Besides that when I asked tech questions, they didnt seem to know what they were talking about.
                        One long frustrating experience, waste of money and time.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by gearhead13 View Post
                          Generally, I would rather order online than call long distance to place an order, but i called APE over a month ago to order a piston kit, gave my credit card number and everything and it seemed like it went well. Then they couldnt confirm my address through their incompetence or outdated equipment, so I had to scan my drivers license, visa statement and card and email it to them. They then had cancelled my original order and I had to wait for the money to be put back on the card, another week. They wouldnt email me the tracking number, so I had to call several times to get it(long distance), no toll-free. So, it took about 6 weeks to get here and i had to pay UPS another $140 when it arrived. If a company sends packages properly, there is no need to have to pay anthing but GST @6% or so. Now, I just can't wait to get the phone bill to see how much more its gonna cost me. Besides that when I asked tech questions, they didnt seem to know what they were talking about.
                          One long frustrating experience, waste of money and time.
                          Big Jay is the owner and I bet he would like to make your bad deal right.
                          1983 GS 1100E w/ 1230 kit, .340 lift Web Cams, Ape heavy duty valve springs, 83 1100 head with 1.5mm oversized SS intake valves, 1150 crank, Vance and Hines 1150 SuperHub, Star Racing high volume oil pump gears, 36mm carebs Dynojet stage 3 jet kit, Posplayr's SSPB, Progressive rear shocks and fork springs, Dyna 2000, Dynatek green coils and Vance & Hines 4-1 exhaust.
                          1985 GS1150ES stock with 85 Red E bodywork.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by gearhead13 View Post
                            Ya, I have dealt with APE before, and NEVER again
                            sounds like they protected you from a credit card skimming attempt.

                            you have to be retarded to talk smack about APE
                            Last edited by trippivot; 12-19-2008, 10:17 AM.
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by trippivot View Post
                              sounds like they protected you from a credit card skimming attempt.

                              you have to be retarded to talk smack about APE
                              You dont know what you are talking about, you are some kind of ignoramus.
                              I order from Bike Bandit quite a bit, and the shipping takes 2-3 days max, and NOTHING owing when UPS comes to the door. They have toll-free and NEVER a problem with my cc.
                              Last edited by Guest; 12-19-2008, 10:37 AM.

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