Transistor-Ignition trouble shooting

[Buffalo Bill]

1981 550T
Well, I got weak spark or none, I can't see a spark when I do the basic test: the plug out and touching the block when I crank the starter. I hooked up another coil and repeated the test, no spark.
Time to move on to the wiring from the coils to the igniter and signal generator, then the ig and sig themselves.
You guys got any tips to shorten my frustration?
Thanks. Bill

[Mark Harrop]

Dyna...

Is everything stock? Has the wiring been hacked?
..and have you cleaned all the grounds?

[Skievryday]

Ignitor

Do any of your spark plugs give spark? Guessing no.

Go ahead and check the wiring first, but I am guessing your iginitor is cooked from you R/R being cooked. Ask me how I know, and I will come show you the two fried ignitors and one bad R/R I have.

Did you ever have R/R trouble where the thing got cooked and fried fuses? If so, make sure that you have the right gauge fuse plugged in everywhere. My PO f'ed me over by putting in an oversized one, which lead to the iginitor getting fried- this can happen again if your R/R isn't working properly, so first thing is first.

Check your R/R with voltometer. Instructions in your manual. If it doesn't check out right, replace.

Check iginitor with voltometer. Replace (buy a used one as OEM replacements are expensive) only after checking out the R/R- there were some posts on here about building your own if you have mechanical advance, which I don't THINK you do.

Check signal advancer.

I am guessing it is your iginitor, but unfortunately there is not much of a way to make your life easy, but tests with the voltometer dont take too long.

[doctorgonzo]

Make sure there is juice at the coils as well, there could be a problem with their power. The igniter actually grounds them, it doesn't power them. If you have juice at the coils, then as stated it might be the igniter. I think there is a test in the manual. If it's bad I'd go Dyna over $400.00 OEM igniter or or a used one. If you want to keep it stock (and the igniter is bad) they pop up on ebay from time to time.

[Mark Harrop]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Dyna-S-Ignition-SUZUKI-GS550-GS750-GS850-GS1000-GS1100_W0QQitemZ310109484979QQihZ021QQcategoryZ355 94QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewIte$m

$125.00

I know this is not what you wanted to hear...

[doctorgonzo]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Dyna-S-Ignition-SUZUKI-GS550-GS750-GS850-GS1000-GS1100_W0QQitemZ310109484979QQihZ021QQcategoryZ355 94QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewIte$m

$125.00

I know this is not what you wanted to hear...

And as I think you talked about there is a Dyna S on ebay for $125 right now. We're getting ahead of the game though because it could be a BUNCH of things stopping the coils from getting power.

[doctorgonzo]

Could even be plug wires, or plug caps.

[Buffalo Bill]

Thanks

Thanks for the info guys, it sounds like I should check the continuity of the wiring, and the igniter output. The igniter test is described in my service manual. I got the bike this November, so I have a short history with it. Weeks ago I got it running on one or two cylinders, yesterday-nothing.
Bill

[thewiz]

If you have connectivity issues, the igniter will test defective. So before you spend big bucks for the ignitor, check all the connections. Don't forget to pull the headlight bucket apart and check there, that's where I found my problem with the same symptoms you describe. Ask me how I know about replacing the ignitor after the Haynes manual test.

[Buffalo Bill]

Problem discoverd

Thanks, I found the problem, a butt connector had come apart near the air box. Probably from all the wrestling to get the carbs back in. I pulled off all the butt connectors and soldered the wires together.
Bike started right up. Now I have to tune it to run good but that, is another story.

[aquamon]

Easy and less than $10 to fix any gs/gsx(r?) igniter...

[Steve]

Easy and less than $10 to fix any gs/gsx(r?) igniter...

AND ... it's always nice to hear what fixed the problem.

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