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sling42
Replace points on '79 w/electronic unit from '81?
Hi all - does anyone know if it is possible to drop an electronic ignition unit from an '81 GS850 into a '79 without other modifications? Thanks! -
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Should be no problem, but the coils are different. You'll also need to do some wiring to power the igniter unit, so make sure you're comfortable tracking down everything in the wiring diagrams.
You'll want to get the pickups, the igniter box, and the coils from the donor bike (or replace the coils with aftermarket, like the Dyna green coils).
You should be able to leave the mechanical advance in place.1983 GS850G, Cosmos Blue.
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Why not just get a Dyna S ignition? Set it and forget it.
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sling42
Asking because I bought a used package cheap for the aluminum ignition cover...but the deal came with the extra ignition parts...I was just wondering if I needed anything else to use the rest of the parts. If I have to buy stuff - I will probably just get the Dyna S.
Here's what I got...
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Originally posted by sling42 View PostAsking because I bought a used package cheap for the aluminum ignition cover...but the deal came with the extra ignition parts...I was just wondering if I needed anything else to use the rest of the parts. If I have to buy stuff - I will probably just get the Dyna S.
Here's what I got...
No ignitor there.
Regarding the coils, the coil resistance spec is basically the same for all the different years regardless of whether there are points or electronic ignition, so not sure if there was a meaningful change to the coils or not.
1979 coil resistance spec (points ignition) - "Approx 4 ohms"
1980+ coil resistance sepc (electronic ignition) - "Approx. 3 - 5 ohms"Last edited by Nessism; 12-29-2008, 05:16 PM.Ed
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Originally posted by sling42 View PostAsking because I bought a used package cheap for the aluminum ignition cover...but the deal came with the extra ignition parts...I was just wondering if I needed anything else to use the rest of the parts. If I have to buy stuff - I will probably just get the Dyna S.
Here's what I got...
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All but the cover that is. I assume you want that, but if you want to get rid of the signal generator and/or the mechanical advance let me know.Last edited by Guest; 12-29-2008, 05:14 PM.
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If you can find an igniter this setup should work. Ask SqDancerLynn1 about a resistor you can add for the coils.1983 GS 1100E w/ 1230 kit, .340 lift Web Cams, Ape heavy duty valve springs, 83 1100 head with 1.5mm oversized SS intake valves, 1150 crank, Vance and Hines 1150 SuperHub, Star Racing high volume oil pump gears, 36mm carebs Dynojet stage 3 jet kit, Posplayr's SSPB, Progressive rear shocks and fork springs, Dyna 2000, Dynatek green coils and Vance & Hines 4-1 exhaust.
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Originally posted by posplayr View PostI have a spare igniters off of both 83 GS1100E and a 80 GS750E
Woot Woot!!!1983 GS 1100E w/ 1230 kit, .340 lift Web Cams, Ape heavy duty valve springs, 83 1100 head with 1.5mm oversized SS intake valves, 1150 crank, Vance and Hines 1150 SuperHub, Star Racing high volume oil pump gears, 36mm carebs Dynojet stage 3 jet kit, Posplayr's SSPB, Progressive rear shocks and fork springs, Dyna 2000, Dynatek green coils and Vance & Hines 4-1 exhaust.
1985 GS1150ES stock with 85 Red E bodywork.
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Originally posted by chef1366 View PostIf you can find an igniter this setup should work. Ask SqDancerLynn1 about a resistor you can add for the coils.
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Originally posted by SqDancerLynn1 View PostYour going the oposite way, you can use a 2 ohm resistor with the 3 ohm coils to get 5 ohms to use them with points system ! To use electronic ign you should use 3 ohm coils. The Original coils will work but for how long is the question, may overheat ???1983 GS 1100E w/ 1230 kit, .340 lift Web Cams, Ape heavy duty valve springs, 83 1100 head with 1.5mm oversized SS intake valves, 1150 crank, Vance and Hines 1150 SuperHub, Star Racing high volume oil pump gears, 36mm carebs Dynojet stage 3 jet kit, Posplayr's SSPB, Progressive rear shocks and fork springs, Dyna 2000, Dynatek green coils and Vance & Hines 4-1 exhaust.
1985 GS1150ES stock with 85 Red E bodywork.
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Originally posted by SqDancerLynn1 View PostYour going the oposite way, you can use a 2 ohm resistor with the 3 ohm coils to get 5 ohms to use them with points system ! To use electronic ign you should use 3 ohm coils. The Original coils will work but for how long is the question, may overheat ???
When checking the service manual for the GS850 the coil specs are as follows:
1979 coil resistance spec (points ignition) - "Approx 4 ohms"
1980+ coil resistance sepc (electronic ignition) - "Approx. 3 - 5 ohms"
Question: based on these specs it seems like the coils are basically the same...although the part numbers are not. How come you think the resistance should be 3 ohms?Ed
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