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How much will it cost to rebuild the engine and gear box on a 1982 gs 850 L
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NES07DEZTags: None
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Like tkent asked, what's wrong, how bad is it, and why do you think it needs to be done?
What are your sypmptoms that make you think it needs to be rebuilt? If it's just low compression, it could be rings, valves, valve timing. If it's rings, they could be worn or just stuck. How long have you had the bike? How long has it been since it ran well? If you just got the bike and don't know its history, it might just need a good cleaning. The gearbox is rather difficult (but not impossible) to kill. More likely to have a stuck or slipping clutch or a bent shifter fork.
Give us some more details and we might be able to give you better numbers. If it just needs a good cleaning, it won't cost much. If you need to pull the cylinders, a gasket kit can be from $50-100, rings (if you need them) will be about the same, cylinders will need to be honed, it would make sense to change the valve seals (usually included with the gasket kit). Tranny work will depend on what's wrong, but clutch springs are about $20 (to cure slipping). Add a few bucks for incidentals and you can see how it can quickly escalate from about $125 to $300-400 very easily.
I just did a quick search on eBay for "Suzuki 850 engine" and found three on this side of The Pond and one in England.
Prices ranged from $200-300 plus shipping.
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hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
#1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
#2 son: 1980 GS1000G
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NES07DEZ
Hello all,
Nothing is wrong with my bike but i am trying to coustomise it and i just wanted to khow how much it will cost. I really dont khow the history of the bike i just rather do the hole thing and really know what was done to the bike. any sugestions.
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If there is "nothing wrong" with it, why not just run a couple of tests?
If they check out, you have that much more money available for your customizing.
Have you run the bike yet? That is, run it down the road. If it runs well and does not smoke, leave it alone. Evidently whoever was inside the engine last (it might have been the assembly people at the factory) knew what they were doing, so why mess it up?
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mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
#1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
#2 son: 1980 GS1000G
Family Portrait
Siblings and Spouses
Mom's first ride
Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
(Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)
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blmiller8
Originally posted by Steve View PostIf there is "nothing wrong" with it, why not just run a couple of tests?
If they check out, you have that much more money available for your customizing.
Have you run the bike yet? That is, run it down the road. If it runs well and does not smoke, leave it alone. Evidently whoever was inside the engine last (it might have been the assembly people at the factory) knew what they were doing, so why mess it up?
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To answer your question, $,1500+ depending on what you want to do.1978 GS 1000 (since new)
1979 GS 1000 (The Fridge, superbike replica project)
1978 GS 1000 (parts)
1981 GS 850 (anyone want a project?)
1981 GPZ 550 (backroad screamer)
1970 450 Mk IIID (THUMP!)
2007 DRz 400S
1999 ATK 490ES
1994 DR 350SES
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NES07DEZ
Hello all
the bike runs like a dream! the only thing is the splines whent out and i am waiting on the part. I will be posting photos of the old spline so stay tuned. I was just thinking just to rebuild the motor and the gear box but i guess if it aint broke dont fix it. but i am going to change the valve cover gasket. a small amount of oil is sipping out but not much at all.
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makenzie71
To rebuild it yourself or pay someone to do it for you? I usually run a base charge of 10 hours on a four stroke piston motor, plus 1.3 hours per additional cylinder (14 hours total for a GS850), which includes cylinder bore/hone and head/block lapping (machining if needed as well). Does not include new pistons and rings, bearings, timing chain/belt, valve grind/surface, or seals. This is for the bike being brought to me. Bringing just the motor shaves 2.5 hours off the total.
Of course service charges will vary...I do everything at $35/hr...for my work, to rebuild a GS850 engine, would be out $490 in labor (a hair over $400 to bring just the motor).
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I agree with the general mood -- if it ain't broke, there's absolutely no reason to open that engine. 850 engines will easily go 100,000 miles and far more without major work. They're actually quite a bit easier on their bores than the 1000 and 1100G engines.
Throw a RealGasket on the valve cover and breather cover (check the valves while you're in there) and ride happy. http://realgaskets.com
Invest your money in new tires (those old-school tires have GOT to go, pronto) and suspension upgrades. Hagon or Progressive shocks are good, or if you want to spend even more, Ikon or Works. These will make a HUGE difference in riding enjoyment and safety. The same applies to brake upgrades (new pads & stainless braided lines).
All the standard 850 stuff applies, too -- seal the airbox, intake boots & o-rings, replace the o-rings in the carbs, new petcock, fine-tune float height, etc. Basscliff has a complete list...
The final touch is to replace all the rubber bits and pieces -- the grommets holding the side covers, the tank cushions, the instrument cushions, etc. These will go a long way toward making your bike look and feel new.1983 GS850G, Cosmos Blue.
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Originally posted by makenzie71 View PostOf course service charges will vary...I do everything at $35/hr...for my work, to rebuild a GS850 engine, would be out $490 in labor (a hair over $400 to bring just the motor).
Where are you?1983 GS850G, Cosmos Blue.
2005 KLR685, Aztec Pink - Turd II.3, the ReReReTurdening
2015 Yamaha FJ-09, Magma Red Power Corrupts...
Eat more venison.
Please provide details. The GSR Hive Mind is nearly omniscient, but not yet clairvoyant.
Celeriter equita, converteque saepe.
SUPPORT THIS SITE! DONATE TODAY!
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makenzie71
Originally posted by bwringer View PostDang, you need to charge more!
Where are you?
Lubbock, TX.
I charge what I charge because I have no overhead...unlike shops. I also do the work on the side, apart from my day job. So you may only be charged 10~15 hours for something like this, but it'll take 2-weeks.
I haven't done any 4-cylinders, though, so after my first run I may have to add a couple hours...I've never had to ask my machinist what he'll charge me for a four cylinder bore.
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