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    83-86 700/750ES Model Guys

    Could you do me a favor and look on the fork tubes on your bike and tell me if there is some type of stopper or ring on the fork tube under the air joint that prevents the air joint from slipping downward?

    I'm in the middle of my ES conversion and when I took the E model headlight ears off, I seemingly have lost any ability to keep the air joint located firmly where it should be.

    Does it just 'hang out' there without anything holding it on the ES or is there a part that I'm missing?

    #2
    When in doubt about things like this I go to the parts fishe such as the one at Alpha-sports... http://www.alpha-sports.com/suzuki_parts.htm

    That said, there is a wire spring clip keeping the air joint from falling. The fork tube is cut with a groove for said clip to engage with.
    Ed

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      #3
      WTF. The fork tubes are different?

      Ugh.

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        #4
        When I converted my E to an ES, I just left the headlight ears on and turned them inwards. I had no problems with anything on the forks.
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          #5
          Item 5 are the clips holding the air collars up.

          51424-31340
          RING, STOPPER


          Ed

          To measure is to know.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Griffin View Post
            When I converted my E to an ES, I just left the headlight ears on and turned them inwards. I had no problems with anything on the forks.
            Might end up just doing this.

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              #7
              I vaguely remember there being two grooves in the bore of the air assemblies and thought the o-ring seals in these grooves just held the thing up by friction. But it's a hazy memory. Do yours have those grooves?
              S.

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                #8
                I have a couple of parts bikes in my garage and one of them was the ES version.
                There is a groove machined into the fork where a metal ring butts up against, on top of the metal ring sits a rubber ring, then what you refered to as the "air joint" sits firmly on top.
                As the diagram further upthread shows it would be parts 5 and 6.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by groundshock View Post
                  Might end up just doing this.
                  Hey Mickey,

                  Did you get your package alright?
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                  SUZUKI:
                  1978 GS1000E; 1980 GS1000G; 1982 GS650E; 1982 GS1100G; 1982 GS1100E; 1985 GS700ES
                  HONDA: 1981 CB900F Super Sport
                  KAWASAKI: 1981 KZ550A-2; 1984 ZX750A-2 (aka GPZ750); 1984 KZ700A-1
                  YAMAHA: 1983 XJ750RK Seca

                  Free speech is the foundation of an open society. Each time a society bans a word or phrase it deems “offensive”, it chips away at that very foundation upon which it was built.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by jetta90 View Post
                    I have a couple of parts bikes in my garage and one of them was the ES version.
                    There is a groove machined into the fork where a metal ring butts up against, on top of the metal ring sits a rubber ring, then what you refered to as the "air joint" sits firmly on top.
                    As the diagram further upthread shows it would be parts 5 and 6.
                    #5 is the spring clip that fits into the groove in the fork tube, and keeps the air collars and all the various rings and such from falling down to the lower triple clamp. I know this for a fact since I took the front end off my ES two months ago. Regarding the spring clips they are no longer available from Suzuki - I checked because my bike is missing one (safety wire is holding up one of the air collar on my bike). If anyone has an extra clip please drop me a PM, I'll buy it from you.
                    Last edited by Nessism; 02-01-2009, 05:33 PM.
                    Ed

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                      #11
                      Nessism - I have not had a need to ever take an ES fork off...................but I'm guessing the spring clip you're short comes off only by removing the upper fork tube first, right?

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by jetta90 View Post
                        Nessism - I have not had a need to ever take an ES fork off...................but I'm guessing the spring clip you're short comes off only by removing the upper fork tube first, right?
                        The clip can be removed with the forks in place; clip is just a piece of spring steel wire with an open end. Collars are trapped so the forks have to come down in order to remove them.
                        Ed

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