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    Shim purchase and other "maintenance" items.

    Good Evening to all of you.

    Where do you get your shim from? Do you wait to take the valve apart before ordering them or do you get a set of them?
    I am making a list of things I will need to do my full tune-up and want to make sure I have them on hand once I am ready.

    I think I am going to start with the oil/filter/spark/battery first (I believe this is the easy part) - What sparks to use?
    I will then do the carbs (I have ordered the O-rings and will be ordering the bowl gaskets soon) Any preference on the carb cleaner products? Do I need a carb rebuilt kit?
    The last "big" part will be the valve and the shim.

    One more question, where do you get your fuel hose/brake hose from?

    Thanks again.

    I am going to try to take some pics this weekend... they announced rain/slit/snow over here in NYC so not sure how much I am going to do even though the bike is in the garage. I am waiting for the oil filters to arrive as well.

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    Originally posted by julien View Post
    Good Evening to all of you.

    Where do you get your shim from? Do you wait to take the valve apart before ordering them or do you get a set of them?
    I am making a list of things I will need to do my full tune-up and want to make sure I have them on hand once I am ready.

    I think I am going to start with the oil/filter/spark/battery first (I believe this is the easy part) - What sparks to use?
    I will then do the carbs (I have ordered the O-rings and will be ordering the bowl gaskets soon) Any preference on the carb cleaner products? Do I need a carb rebuilt kit?
    The last "big" part will be the valve and the shim.

    One more question, where do you get your fuel hose/brake hose from?

    Thanks again.

    I am going to try to take some pics this weekend... they announced rain/slit/snow over here in NYC so not sure how much I am going to do even though the bike is in the garage. I am waiting for the oil filters to arrive as well.
    I swap my shims one-for-one at no charge from my local Suzuki dealer. Measure each one if it's not in spec. Often times you can swap them around to reduce the amount of shims you need to get.

    If it's an 8 valve (I assume it is since you have shims) then you need B8es plugs.

    Any carb dip will work. I like Berryman's. Don't forget to also get the orings for the intake boots (if you have orings on them). You shouln't need a carb rebuild kit... just use the new orings and make sure your old parts are clean. Go to the GS Garage on the home page for help in your carb rebuild.

    You can get the fuel hose from most any auto parts store.

    85 GS1150E May '06 BOM
    79 GS1000S Wes Cooley Beast





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      #3
      Fuel hose from an OE source. The stock stuff is 7mm and the auto parts store stuff doesn't fit as well (requires a hose clamp to seal properly).

      Shims from Z1 Enterprises http://z1enterprises.com/ They also have float bowl gaskets and spark plugs.

      Go to http://cycleorings.com/ for carb and intake boot O-rings.
      Ed

      To measure is to know.

      Mikuni O-ring Kits For Sale...https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...ts#post1703182

      Top Newbie Mistakes thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=171846

      Carb rebuild tutorial...https://gsarchive.bwringer.com/mtsac...d_Tutorial.pdf

      KZ750E Rebuild Thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...0-Resurrection

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        #4
        Originally posted by renobruce View Post

        If it's an 8 valve (I assume it is since you have shims) then you need B8es plugs.
        So the 8 valve engine uses a different plug than the 16 valve engine ? I use NGK D8EA in my 16 valver....

        I learn something everyday........
        Larry D
        1980 GS450S
        1981 GS450S
        2003 Heritage Softtail

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          #5
          Originally posted by Larry D View Post
          So the 8 valve engine uses a different plug than the 16 valve engine ? I use NGK D8EA in my 16 valver....

          I learn something everyday........
          16V engine has less real estate in the head for the plug, thus D8ES for 16V and B8ES for 8V.
          Ed

          To measure is to know.

          Mikuni O-ring Kits For Sale...https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...ts#post1703182

          Top Newbie Mistakes thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=171846

          Carb rebuild tutorial...https://gsarchive.bwringer.com/mtsac...d_Tutorial.pdf

          KZ750E Rebuild Thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...0-Resurrection

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            #6
            Originally posted by Nessism View Post
            16V engine has less real estate in the head for the plug, thus D8ES for 16V and B8ES for 8V.
            The threads are a different size, too.
            85 GS1150E May '06 BOM
            79 GS1000S Wes Cooley Beast





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              #7
              Bruce,
              Can you get me a can of Berrymans from a non-hippy state. They changed the composition so it kinda sucks now. I do alot of carb jobs and need my Berrymans!
              1983 GS 1100E w/ 1230 kit, .340 lift Web Cams, Ape heavy duty valve springs, 83 1100 head with 1.5mm oversized SS intake valves, 1150 crank, Vance and Hines 1150 SuperHub, Star Racing high volume oil pump gears, 36mm carebs Dynojet stage 3 jet kit, Posplayr's SSPB, Progressive rear shocks and fork springs, Dyna 2000, Dynatek green coils and Vance & Hines 4-1 exhaust.
              1985 GS1150ES stock with 85 Red E bodywork.

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                #8
                Originally posted by renobruce View Post
                If it's an 8 valve (I assume it is since you have shims) then you need B8es plugs.
                Not necessarily, see below.
                Originally posted by Larry D View Post
                So the 8 valve engine uses a different plug than the 16 valve engine ? I use NGK D8EA in my 16 valver....
                Most 8-valve engines use different plugs, see below.
                Originally posted by Nessism View Post
                16V engine has less real estate in the head for the plug, thus D8ES for 16V and B8ES for 8V.
                Isn't that D8EA for the 16s?
                Originally posted by renobruce View Post
                The threads are a different size, too.
                Yep, the thread size difference is the difference between the B and the D at the front of the plug "number".
                The 16-valve engines and the 550s and 650s all use the smaller D plugs.
                From 750 on up, the 8-valve engines use the larger B plugs.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by chef1366 View Post
                  Bruce,
                  Can you get me a can of Berrymans from a non-hippy state. They changed the composition so it kinda sucks now. I do alot of carb jobs and need my Berrymans!
                  Yeah, I tried some of that California Berryman's.... it sucks!! You'd be better off with boiling water and lemon juice. We still have the good stuff here, and it's only 20 bucks a gallon. I'd be glad to smuggle you in some if you know how I can.
                  85 GS1150E May '06 BOM
                  79 GS1000S Wes Cooley Beast





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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Steve View Post
                    The 16-valve engines and the 550s and 650s all use the smaller D plugs.
                    From 750 on up, the 8-valve engines use the larger B plugs.

                    .
                    Steve, sorry to disagree, but the 550 2-valve engine uses the B8ES plug not the 12mm one (D).

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