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syren
Will only run when spraying starter fluid.
Today I took the carbs apart and gave them a good cleaning. I drained out the tank and cleaned the petcock. Upon start (electric start) it turned over with some spray of starting fluid, and it will keep running as long as we kept spraying it. The engine sounded pretty good as well. However if you stop spraying it sputters out and stalls. We tried giving more or less throttle but it would sputter and stall if we gave it too much which is understandable. I took off a float bowl from on of the carbs and it was full with gas so it seems to be getting at least that far. Any suggestions on what I should check or do next? Won't start or run without the starter fluid right now though.
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ktp1598
Out of curiosity, how old is the gas? A bike mechanic once told me that even 1 month old gas can go bad and a bike may not run with it.
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syren
Gas is brand new, just bought it today. I drained the old crap out, cleaned out the petcock and put new gas in.
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BassCliff
Hi Mr. syren,
Did you follow the carb cleaning bible religiously? Did you bench sync the carbs? Did you put the airbox back on? Are there absolutely no leaks in the air intake system (i.e. new boots, o-rings, airbox sealed)?
Thank you for your indulgence,
BassCliffLast edited by Guest; 03-14-2009, 04:09 PM.
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Did it run before you worked on carbs?
When you say you cleaned the petcock, do you mean you took it apart?
Do you know if it is flowing gas? Put in PRIme and Pull off gas line to see.
Do you know if getting any gas to carb bowls? Loosen the drain screws on bottom of bowl to see.
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Well, if there's gas in the float bowls and fuel flowing from the petcock, and it does fire (which means there's enough compression and spark), then the only thing wrong is that the carbs are plugged.
You followed the Carb cleaning method completely? That usually takes more than a day.1978 GS 1000 (since new)
1979 GS 1000 (The Fridge, superbike replica project)
1978 GS 1000 (parts)
1981 GS 850 (anyone want a project?)
1981 GPZ 550 (backroad screamer)
1970 450 Mk IIID (THUMP!)
2007 DRz 400S
1999 ATK 490ES
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syren
Update:
I realised the choke cable wasn't hooked up. I hooked it back up and it idled fine after it seemed the fuel got through. When I give it throttle it sputters out and then dies.
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BassCliff
Originally posted by syren View PostI realised the choke cable wasn't hooked up. I hooked it back up and it idled fine after it seemed the fuel got through. When I give it throttle it sputters out and then dies.
Did you follow the carb cleaning bible religiously? Did you bench sync the carbs? Did you put the airbox back on? Are there absolutely no leaks in the air intake system (i.e. new boots, o-rings, airbox sealed)?
Thank you for your indulgence,
BassCliff
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Originally posted by BassCliff View PostHi Mr. syren,
Did you follow the carb cleaning bible religiously? Did you bench sync the carbs? Did you put the airbox back on? Are there absolutely no leaks in the air intake system (i.e. new boots, o-rings, airbox sealed)?
Thank you for your indulgence,
BassCliff
Hey Cliff,
You can lead a horse to water...Ed
To measure is to know.
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BassCliff
Originally posted by Nessism View PostHey Cliff,
You can lead a horse to water...
Perhaps I should just start loaning out my magic screwdriver. Whenever my bike doesn't run right, I just wave it over the engine and it starts right up and runs great!
Thank you for your indulgence,
BassCliffLast edited by Guest; 03-15-2009, 12:23 AM.
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Cliff, that pic is a thread killer1983 GS 1100E w/ 1230 kit, .340 lift Web Cams, Ape heavy duty valve springs, 83 1100 head with 1.5mm oversized SS intake valves, 1150 crank, Vance and Hines 1150 SuperHub, Star Racing high volume oil pump gears, 36mm carebs Dynojet stage 3 jet kit, Posplayr's SSPB, Progressive rear shocks and fork springs, Dyna 2000, Dynatek green coils and Vance & Hines 4-1 exhaust.
1985 GS1150ES stock with 85 Red E bodywork.
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BassCliff
Hi Mr. syren,
I hope you know that we're just razzing you a little. Please take no offense.
Sometimes, if a bike has been neglected for a while, you just have to do all of the proper maintenance up front. Then you won't be forever chasing down all kinds of pesky little problems. Keep us informed.
Thank you for your indulgence,
BassCliff
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Originally posted by syren View PostToday I took the carbs apart and gave them a good cleaning. I drained out the tank and cleaned the petcock. Upon start (electric start) it turned over with some spray of starting fluid, and it will keep running as long as we kept spraying it. The engine sounded pretty good as well. However if you stop spraying it sputters out and stalls. We tried giving more or less throttle but it would sputter and stall if we gave it too much which is understandable. I took off a float bowl from on of the carbs and it was full with gas so it seems to be getting at least that far. Any suggestions on what I should check or do next? Won't start or run without the starter fluid right now though.
79 GS 850
1) Clean the carbs. Cleaner than clean, Squeeky clean. Follow the links posted earlier. Replace all the orings.
2) Valve adjustment.
3) Get the airflow correct. No leaks.
Of course new fluids and filter as well. But if the first three things are not done, she'll never run quite right.
Hey Cliff. Do you still have that list that bwringer made of things to do when bringing one back to life ?
Good Luck syren. Keep after it and be patient, you'll have her running great in no time.Larry D
1980 GS450S
1981 GS450S
2003 Heritage Softtail
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