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    #16
    The side of the lobe is worn? Like someone chiseled the corner off? That's what happens when you turn the engine over without a shim in the bucket. You might find a nick in the bucket's lip too.

    Or do you mean the round part of the cam is showing wear?

    Not enough room to get the shims out... Are you sure the cams are in the correct orientation? I'm sort of guessing here, I'm not sure if what I'm visualizing is what you're describing. Anyhow, something is wrong, since this shouldn't be difficult. It shouldn't be wide open either though. Even with tweezers, you'll need to reach in diagonally, about 45° to the side.
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      #17
      I thought about turning my bike upside down and shaking the shims out but a magnet and tweezers does a good job too. hope that helps..

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        #18
        Originally posted by Steve View Post
        A 16-valve GS with shims?

        This I just have to see. Please enclose pictures.

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        Headin down to take pics now I just have the valve cover sitting on top. Waiting on my shim tool and an electronic ignition and we'll be set

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          #19
          welp.............open mouth insert both feet LOL. It's 8-valve guess the Marine Corps didn't teach me to count properly

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            #20
            Originally posted by barsnake View Post
            I thought about turning my bike upside down and shaking the shims out but a magnet and tweezers does a good job too. hope that helps..
            hahaha

            Originally posted by Dogma View Post
            The side of the lobe is worn? Like someone chiseled the corner off? That's what happens when you turn the engine over without a shim in the bucket. You might find a nick in the bucket's lip too.

            Or do you mean the round part of the cam is showing wear?

            Not enough room to get the shims out... Are you sure the cams are in the correct orientation? I'm sort of guessing here, I'm not sure if what I'm visualizing is what you're describing. Anyhow, something is wrong, since this shouldn't be difficult. It shouldn't be wide open either though. Even with tweezers, you'll need to reach in diagonally, about 45° to the side.
            well the part where the lobe pushes the valve all the way open should be the only part that touches the shim. correct?

            Well once I have the Ziptie in the correct spot (between the valve and the valve head) I turn the engine over until the lob is not pushing the valve down and on the middle of the part that is on top(when you look at the engine) or the "side of the lobe" it shows what I call wear there are no dings or nics in the lob at all. it just looks like light rubbing. like when you rub fine steel whool on stainless steel. I will get pics soon I am kicking my self for not last night cause I am not going home till saturday.

            Thank you
            Jake

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              #21
              Originally posted by jeepinbanditrider View Post
              ... guess the Marine Corps didn't teach me to count properly
              You must have been the youngest Marine, ever.

              Most kids can count by the time they get to Kindergarten, which is at least a dozen (that's 12) years before they are eligible to enlist in the Marine Corp.

              Here, salute this flag.

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                #22
                Originally posted by jeepinbanditrider View Post
                welp.............open mouth insert both feet LOL. It's 8-valve guess the Marine Corps didn't teach me to count properly
                I did the same thing my first time I did a valve job.
                Funny hu?

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Steve View Post
                  You must have been the youngest Marine, ever.

                  Most kids can count by the time they get to Kindergarten, which is at least a dozen (that's 12) years before they are eligible to enlist in the Marine Corp.

                  Here, salute this flag.

                  Naw I'm 23 almost 24 I just have massive brain farts sometimes

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Steve View Post
                    You must have been the youngest Marine, ever.

                    Most kids can count by the time they get to Kindergarten, which is at least a dozen (that's 12) years before they are eligible to enlist in the Marine Corp.

                    Here, salute this flag.

                    Man you are being such a smart arss today.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by nisom512 View Post
                      Man you are being such a smart arss today.
                      Who? Me?



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                      #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
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                        #26
                        Barsnake

                        Originally posted by barsnake View Post
                        I thought about turning my bike upside down and shaking the shims out but a magnet and tweezers does a good job too. hope that helps..
                        Hey Barsnake;

                        Watch using a magnet. If you shims get slightly magnetized, they will attract any metalic debris !

                        Rick

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by ryonker View Post
                          Hey Barsnake;

                          Watch using a magnet. If you shims get slightly magnetized, they will attract any metalic debris !

                          Rick
                          oh getting a physicist on us now huh?

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                            #28
                            No, just trying to avoid a future post that reads:

                            Hey, I just opened my valve cover and see that my cam lobes are all scored.
                            I used a magnet last time to pull my shims, but I don't think that's the problem."



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                            mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
                            hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
                            #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
                            #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
                            Family Portrait
                            Siblings and Spouses
                            Mom's first ride
                            Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
                            (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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                              #29
                              A rear shock adjuster works just as well as the proper tool for removing shims, in the same way.
                              Yamaha fz1 2007

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by spchips View Post
                                A rear shock adjuster works just as well as the proper tool for removing shims, in the same way.
                                Yeah thats kinda what I was thnking. but didnt know..and now I do.

                                Jake

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