plugs on idle jets

[shaunt]

Hello everyone, I worked on many GSs, mostly cleaning the carbs. on larger engines I never saw rubber plugs on the idle jets, lately I opened a carb for GS650, I noticed it has plugs on the idle jets, are this important? why some have them and some dont, and how the feul gets to the idle jets with the plugs covering the jet? any logic?

shaunt

[Billy Ricks]

This is another topic that a search would have answered. They are there for a reason and need to be there. Fuel gets to the idle circuit through a port off the main jet before it reaches the needle jet. If they aren't in place fuel doesn't get regulated by the main.

[shaunt]

re plugs

Then why some have them some dont? actually I did quick search, did not find answer, so dont get upset if I am asking the question again on the technical forum

shaunt

[Billy Ricks]

Because the owners didn't have enough sense to replace something Mikuni knew they needed. You not only screw up the idle mixture it's entirely possible it screws up the main circuit. This question probably gets asked about once a week on average and a simple search would have given you the answer. Here's what the site administrator feels about people who won't search. I found about 50 threads on this in a matter of seconds.

http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum/showpost.php?p=990178&postcount=4

So the best thing for everyone to do when having a question is to do a search in the tech forum that is specific enough to pin things down where you don't end up with hundreds of hits. I know that sometimes this can be a challenge. As Billy says, you can always re-ask the question. For my own selfish reasons, I would hope people would do a search first before posting and avoid adding unnneccesary text to my database though.

[shaunt]

As I am answering to your "people like you" coment; I have another window open at the search column, I still did not find the answer I am looking for!

[Billy Ricks]

As I am answering to your "people like you" coment; I have another window open at the search column, I still did not find the answer I am looking for!

I don't know where you saw any "People like you" comment, it's not there. This just happens to be one of the most common questions posted here. Simple logic should tell you if Mikuni saw a need for them then they have to be there. I'll post some links for you.

http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum/showthread.php?t=130507&highlight=pilot+jet+rubber+plugs

http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum/showthread.php?t=127115&highlight=pilot+jet+rubber+plugs

http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum/search.php?searchid=968912

[Nessism]

As I am answering to your "people like you" coment; I have another window open at the search column, I still did not find the answer I am looking for!

I just did a simple search on "plug" and the answer turned up easily. Try using the advanced search option and limiting the search to title only.

Sorry to scold but honestly, this topic comes up all the time.

To answer your question: the part is a Pilot Jet Plug, not an idle jet plug, and they should be in place on all GS BS/CV carbs, not just some of them as you reference (with the possible exception being the GS250 which I've never worked on). Some idiot mechanics don't install them because they don't know what they are doing...you obviously have seen a few bikes that have been worked on by hacks.

[twiggy2cents]

my gs550 bsw30ss doesnt have them and im pretty positive they dont take them, they are not in the diagram

[Nessism]

my gs550 bsw30ss doesnt have them and im pretty positive they dont take them, they are not in the diagram

Those are the odd ball twin carbs that are unique to the GS550. BS Minuni's that come on the 400/425/450/500/650/700/750/850/1000/1100/1150 all have the plugs.

[twiggy2cents]

i know i just figured id give you a hard time being that you said all bs carbs but then again mine might be considered bsw's?

[mike_of_bbg]

And just to clarify for the benefit of those who search in the future and find this thread, GS550s with CV carbs before 1983 (Mikuni BS32SS) DO have pilot jet plugs. Mine should be arriving today.