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    1985 GS700ES Valve Adjustment

    I know this has already been I'm sure talked about !!! But I was getting bored tonight and I cant ride the bike yet anyway !! Still doing the rust in the tank fix !!

    I was told or heard that I do not have shims on this model ??? I haven't even looked into it yet.. But will do it tonight if I find the right information. I have no idea when it was last done and I'm sure it could not hurt. It runs great but ?? I would feel better if I know I have done it.

    Thanks.

    #2
    The service manual has the adjustment procedure. Basscliff has a free manual download if you don't already have one. In my opinion, shims are easier but to each their own.
    Ed

    To measure is to know.

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      #3
      It has screw adjust rockers as it has a PERFORMANCE motor with 16 valves instead of a TRACTOR motor with only 8! LOL!!! The valves are easy to adjust, & that motor uses a rubber valve cover gasket so you won't need a new valve cover gasket! The valve clearances are .004-.006 of an inch intakes & .006-.008 on exhaust valves. Read the manual & do the adjustment yourself. Make SURE you don't forget to tighten any of the adjustment nuts or it will COST you some money! Ray.

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        #4
        Originally posted by rapidray View Post
        It has screw adjust rockers as it has a PERFORMANCE motor with 16 valves instead of a TRACTOR motor with only 8! LOL!!! The valves are easy to adjust, & that motor uses a rubber valve cover gasket so you won't need a new valve cover gasket! The valve clearances are .004-.006 of an inch intakes & .006-.008 on exhaust valves. Read the manual & do the adjustment yourself. Make SURE you don't forget to tighten any of the adjustment nuts or it will COST you some money! Ray.
        Adjusting the valves on a 700/750 is more difficult than one of the "tractor" motors. For one thing, there are twice as many valves. For another, when adjusting valves on a GS 16V engine it's important to set the lash the same on each valve with the shared rocker or the rocker will twist. Not good. Lastly, the oil lines on the 700/750 get in the way on on some of the valves. Give me an 8v with shims any day.
        Ed

        To measure is to know.

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          #5
          I'll take the better power over being a lazy mechanic every time!!! Ray.

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            #6
            Salty_Dan and I adjusted the valves on his 750ES a couple weeks ago and two of the oil line banjo bolts were snapped off! Those particular bolts don't have much meat on them due to the holes which allow them to function. We guessed that someone tried to remove the lines to get them out of the way for the valve adjustment and snapped them in the process. The 16V engines also tend to eat their cams/rockers more often than the 8V engines which have a super durable valve train. Not saying the 16v engines are bad, just that they are not "all that" to some of us.
            Last edited by Nessism; 06-02-2009, 10:05 AM.
            Ed

            To measure is to know.

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              #7
              Easy now can't we ALL just get along... I do believe we all have the same LOVE I say for any 2/4/6/8 ?? Iv'e done both 4/8/16/32/64 just kidding about the 64 valves and any verision can be a pain in the #@$@#..

              I think I do have the book Ray (already downloaded it )) Thanks .. Glad to know that I can reuse the Gasket (being careful when removing it).

              I Think I might even take some pictures... Everybody loves pictures.


              Anyway; I do enjoy all the cycle porn and soap operas to read on this sight. Thanks again My tank is already off so getting to the valves should be just pretty easy from the look of it. I kept putting it off thinking I had one of LOW performance motors (( Just Kidding )) mostly not having shims/gasket but Now I know... Heck I didn't even know it had a front fork (single) air schrader valve until I had it a year !!! My bad.. Thanks again and yes it is late.

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                #8
                I've done shims and adjustable tappets. Give me the 16 valve anyday.
                1983 GS 1100E w/ 1230 kit, .340 lift Web Cams, Ape heavy duty valve springs, 83 1100 head with 1.5mm oversized SS intake valves, 1150 crank, Vance and Hines 1150 SuperHub, Star Racing high volume oil pump gears, 36mm carebs Dynojet stage 3 jet kit, Posplayr's SSPB, Progressive rear shocks and fork springs, Dyna 2000, Dynatek green coils and Vance & Hines 4-1 exhaust.
                1985 GS1150ES stock with 85 Red E bodywork.

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                  #9
                  Oh one other tidbit about the 16 valver...........................overtime, the valve gaps tend to tighten up. rather than loosen. So it really isn't ok to push the adjustment intervals too far past 3 to 4K miles, otherwise you might start burning valves.

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                    #10
                    Alright, Got the valve cover off, went over the manual (How To) adjust valves..

                    .004-.006 are the specs.. Got Go-NO-Go (NEW) feller gauge..
                    8mm socket with center hole drilled out just enough to put a home made (10-15yrs ago) for another valve adjust job.. (VRF500 Interceptor).

                    This tool is so simple and rude but works great for fine adustments when setting valves.

                    My Question is I am going to do this tomorrow and want a GS owners best opinions... From what I can tell by doing a QUICK check the other night is that most of them are tight... .004 side.. Heat=Expand Etc... I know.. And a to tight means burnt valves.. I think .006 on ALL should be safe and give enough for heat effects. What do you think.


                    P.S. What happens when you decide to take off the valve cover/coils etc...
                    THEY GET REWORKED !!! The simple oil breather cover is a tease because once you polish that you just can't stop !!! Then; oh yeah I just happen to find some Nice (Purple) yes purple --Don't ask !!! spark plug wires I can use. Anyway it never stops !!

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                      #11
                      ACTUALLY, I just went back to my Factory shop manual and the actual adjustment called for is .004" - .005" or 0.09mm - 0.13mm for both the Intake AND Exhaust valves.

                      I usually adjust mine to a "tight" .005", which is kind of a "loose" .004".
                      .006" might be a little noisey, especially when the weather cools down.

                      From what the shop mechanics have told me, the tightening of these valves between adjustments isn't due to heat, but to the wearing in of the valve seats in the head.

                      Those purple wires ought to look sharp once installed........................all you need is a purple LED mounted under the tank to increase the look at night.

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                        #12
                        Hi Mr. Mark whiz,

                        For your perusal:

                        Valve Adjustment for 16 Valve Motors
                        (by Mr. basic)

                        Thank you for your indulgence,

                        BassCliff

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                          #13
                          Wow, how many miles were on that engine in that article?
                          Those cam lobes look WAY more worn than mine and I got 109K on my bike.

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                            #14
                            I believe the nuts on the adjusters are actually 9mm, not 8.

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