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    Finally up and running stock 1980 GS850G (45k miles). Performed complete carb tear down and rebuild, replaced all o-rings, intake manifolds, air box manifolds. Had the bike since 2000. Now it starts w/o choke, it never did that before..very happy and it settles quickly down to 1000rpm. Thanks to all on this site for their tips and expertise. I have one minor concern, it seems that the pipes are coloring faster than they ever did before, in fact the pipes on this bike never colored at all, almost perfectly chromed. I preset air screws 2.25t turns from seated. Could this be my issue? Should I back them out a bit while striving for max idle. Thanks again, trying to attach a picture

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    YES! Set the mixture screws with the engine idling to get the fastest idle on each carb. The mixture screws are the easiest circuit on the carbs to tune as the motor will "tell" you where it wants them. Ray.

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      #3
      I would raise the needle a bit with washers to richen the needle circuit.
      1983 GS 1100E w/ 1230 kit, .340 lift Web Cams, Ape heavy duty valve springs, 83 1100 head with 1.5mm oversized SS intake valves, 1150 crank, Vance and Hines 1150 SuperHub, Star Racing high volume oil pump gears, 36mm carebs Dynojet stage 3 jet kit, Posplayr's SSPB, Progressive rear shocks and fork springs, Dyna 2000, Dynatek green coils and Vance & Hines 4-1 exhaust.
      1985 GS1150ES stock with 85 Red E bodywork.

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        #4
        Thanks for the tips,

        I will first sync my carbs, I just received motion pro sync tool. Although it is running pretty good, I did not even bench sync so I think I will be able to get running even better after sync then do adjustments.

        Will post on how things work out.

        Thanks again.

        Charlie

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          #5
          That's a beautiful bike. Brings back lots of memories. I had one nearly identical to that and like a dummy, I sold it after I got my Honda ST1100.

          I just didn't like the high rpms on the highway and went to the Honda. Lower rpms and quiet as all get out.

          Sold it in 1997 and sure would like to get it back today. Man I miss that girl.
          Larry

          '79 GS 1000E
          '93 Honda ST 1100 SOLD-- now residing in Arizona.
          '18 Triumph Tiger 800 (gone too soon)
          '19 Triumph Tiger 800 Christmas 2018 to me from me.
          '01 BMW R1100RL project purchased from a friend, now for sale.

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            #6
            Originally posted by rapidray View Post
            YES! Set the mixture screws with the engine idling to get the fastest idle on each carb. The mixture screws are the easiest circuit on the carbs to tune as the motor will "tell" you where it wants them. Ray.
            BassCliff has the instructions for the 'highest rpm' method on his website, this is what you are referring to right?

            Also, for a newb like me - where are the mixture screws located? I know, I know...gotta learn sometime I guess.

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              #7
              This is on an 850, but they are almost all the same:


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              #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
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                #8
                Thanks...

                Follow up question - BassCliff's instructions say to do it with the tank off and an alternate fuel supply. Is there an easy way to rig a homemade fuel set up? What do you guys reccommend?

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                  #9
                  Hi,

                  The next time you pass by an auto wrecking yard, stop in and pick up an old windshield washer fluid tank.

                  Or, I use my regular tank with an extra length of fuel hose and a 5/16" brass barb connector/splicer thingy.



                  Remove the tank, set it on something solid near your bike (higher than the carbs), attach the extra length of fuel hose to the tank's petcock, use the connector to splice into the fuel line on the bike, set the petcock to prime, away you go.

                  Thank you for your indulgence,

                  BassCliff
                  Last edited by Guest; 06-11-2009, 08:18 PM.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by BassCliff View Post
                    Hi,

                    The next time you pass by an auto wrecking yard, stop in and pick up an old windshield washer fluid tank.


                    Thank you for your indulgence,

                    BassCliff
                    Good call...

                    If one doesn't have that available can a milk jug or other gallon size jug be used somehow?

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by lilbilly View Post
                      Good call...

                      If one doesn't have that available can a milk jug or other gallon size jug be used somehow?
                      I edited in another, very cheap, solution.

                      Sure, you can use just about any bottle or jug that will hold gasoline safely. The trick is finding the right fitting for the fuel line.


                      Thank you for your indulgence,

                      BassCliff

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by BassCliff View Post
                        Hi,

                        The next time you pass by an auto wrecking yard, stop in and pick up an old windshield washer fluid tank.

                        Or, I use my regular tank with an extra length of fuel hose and a 5/16" brass barb connector/splicer thingy.



                        Remove the tank, set it on something solid near your bike (higher than the carbs), attach the extra length of fuel hose to the tank's petcock, use the connector to splice into the fuel line on the bike, set the petcock to prime, away you go.

                        Thank you for your indulgence,

                        BassCliff
                        Okay, I see how this would be pretty simple.

                        Another () follow up question. You say set the petcock to prime - set it to prime for the entire time while doing the tuning?

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                          #13
                          Hi,

                          Yes, plug the vacuum line to the carb. Set the petcock to prime so that fuel will flow. The vacuum petcock will not flow fuel without vacuum applied. Setting the petcock to "Prime" allows fuel to flow via gravity.


                          Thank you for your indulgence,

                          BassCliff

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by BassCliff View Post
                            Hi,

                            Yes, plug the vacuum line to the carb. Set the petcock to prime so that fuel will flow. The vacuum petcock will not flow fuel without vacuum applied. Setting the petcock to "Prime" allows fuel to flow via gravity.


                            Thank you for your indulgence,

                            BassCliff
                            Okay, now I'm definitely still lost - sorry for the sudden confusion, I'm not by my bike and I'm forgetting how it looks.

                            Vacuum line/fuel line are the same or different?

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                              #15
                              The vacuum line is smaller than the fuel line, both of them connect to the petcock.

                              When you remove the tank, the vacuum line will be a SERIOUS leak, so plug it with a golf tee or a Philips screwdriver. Extend your gas line from the tank to the bike, connect with the splicer.

                              NOTE: when you have your tank off the bike, don't put it much higher than the stock height, or you may overpower the float valves, changing the fuel level in the bowls.

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                              mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
                              hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
                              #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
                              #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
                              Family Portrait
                              Siblings and Spouses
                              Mom's first ride
                              Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
                              (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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