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    Valve shim ?

    Do all the 8 valve motors use the same size of shims ? Will they physically interchange with the different size engines, 550, 750 1000 ?? Thanks for any insight you can lend.

    Terry
    1980 Suzuki GS550E, 1981 Suzuki GS 1100EX all stock, 1983 Suzuki GS 1100EX modified, 1985 GS1150E, 1998 Honda Valkyrie Tourer, 1971 Kawasaki Mach lll 500 H1, 1973 Kawasaki Mach lV 750 H2.

    #2
    Yes, 29.5mm for all of the 8V motors.

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      #3
      Thank you Mike, just what I wanted to know. My GS550 is my first shim over bucket 8 valve engine. All of my other GS's are 16 valve engines with valve adjusters, which I find MUCH easier.

      Terry
      1980 Suzuki GS550E, 1981 Suzuki GS 1100EX all stock, 1983 Suzuki GS 1100EX modified, 1985 GS1150E, 1998 Honda Valkyrie Tourer, 1971 Kawasaki Mach lll 500 H1, 1973 Kawasaki Mach lV 750 H2.

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        #4
        Terry

        Once you get it down, the shim overs are no faster, and IMO you dont have to fiddle around like you do with the adjusters making sure they're JUST RIGHT. In the end, Id say they take about the same amount of time.

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          #5
          Please note that its 29.5mm, NOT the more plentiful and cheaper 29mm (those are Kawasaki I think). Z1 Enterprises sells 29.5mm shims for about $5 each, and you can search for "shim club" on the forums - you may be able to exchange your largest shims for little to no cost.

          Yeah, it's really not that bad. The worst part about shims is waiting for your new ones You might want to borrow a metric micrometer if you don't have one because invariably some of the printed sizes get worn off. Once you have all of your current shims cataloged and your gaps measured, you can have the shims you'll likely need ordered before your next adjustment.

          Although some people seem to prefer the zip-tie method (and not just to be cheap), I think that $12 motion pro shim tool is a very worthwhile investment. No worries about turning the cam without a shim in the bucket (something you do NOT want to do!), and most of the shims change in just a few seconds.

          Best of luck to ya, get that 550 running and we'll race

          Oh, and I have a couple of 2.72s and a 2.76 (measured) if you're lucky enough to still need shims that thick!

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            #6
            You still have a copy of the spreadsheet I sent you five months ago?

            If not, let me know, I'll send you another one.

            .
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            hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
            #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
            #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
            Family Portrait
            Siblings and Spouses
            Mom's first ride
            Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
            (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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              #7
              Originally posted by mike_of_bbg View Post
              Please note that its 29.5mm, NOT the more plentiful and cheaper 29mm (those are Kawasaki I think). Z1 Enterprises sells 29.5mm shims for about $5 each, and you can search for "shim club" on the forums - you may be able to exchange your largest shims for little to no cost.

              Yeah, it's really not that bad. The worst part about shims is waiting for your new ones You might want to borrow a metric micrometer if you don't have one because invariably some of the printed sizes get worn off. Once you have all of your current shims cataloged and your gaps measured, you can have the shims you'll likely need ordered before your next adjustment.

              Although some people seem to prefer the zip-tie method (and not just to be cheap), I think that $12 motion pro shim tool is a very worthwhile investment. No worries about turning the cam without a shim in the bucket (something you do NOT want to do!), and most of the shims change in just a few seconds.

              Best of luck to ya, get that 550 running and we'll race
              Mike, Terry here is a builder...I dont think you want to race him..if he's been playing with that head, on that bike, chances are you wont see him till he stops

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                #8
                'twas just a joke. I have three kids - I race at the speed limit!

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by mike_of_bbg View Post
                  I race at the speed limit!
                  Which one?

                  My personal favorite is:

                  "3.0 * 10+8. It's not just a good idea, IT'S THE LAW!"

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                  sigpic
                  mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
                  hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
                  #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
                  #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
                  Family Portrait
                  Siblings and Spouses
                  Mom's first ride
                  Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
                  (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Steve View Post
                    Which one?

                    My personal favorite is:

                    "3.0 * 10+8. It's not just a good idea, IT'S THE LAW!"

                    .
                    What?? WTF is that?? By the time ive done the math on this little gem, ive already forgotten wtf we're talking about

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                      #11
                      Yeah, it's hard to do scientific notation on a text-based system, so ...

                      Three point zero times ten to the eighth.

                      When expressed in meters per second, it's the speed of light.

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                      sigpic
                      mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
                      hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
                      #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
                      #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
                      Family Portrait
                      Siblings and Spouses
                      Mom's first ride
                      Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
                      (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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                        #12
                        the speed of light = 299 792 458 m / s

                        or normally expressed in scientific notation as 3.0E+08
                        alternatively 3.0x10^8

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by posplayr View Post
                          the speed of light = 299 792 458 m / s

                          or normally expressed in scientific notation as 3.0E+08
                          alternatively 3.0x10^8
                          Oh snap Here we go.
                          1983 GS 1100E w/ 1230 kit, .340 lift Web Cams, Ape heavy duty valve springs, 83 1100 head with 1.5mm oversized SS intake valves, 1150 crank, Vance and Hines 1150 SuperHub, Star Racing high volume oil pump gears, 36mm carebs Dynojet stage 3 jet kit, Posplayr's SSPB, Progressive rear shocks and fork springs, Dyna 2000, Dynatek green coils and Vance & Hines 4-1 exhaust.
                          1985 GS1150ES stock with 85 Red E bodywork.

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                            #14
                            The faster you drive, the less you age

                            That explains my gray hair...

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by posplayr View Post
                              the speed of light = 299 792 458 m / s

                              or normally expressed in scientific notation as 3.0E+08
                              alternatively 3.0x10^8
                              Thanks, Pos.

                              .
                              sigpic
                              mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
                              hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
                              #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
                              #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
                              Family Portrait
                              Siblings and Spouses
                              Mom's first ride
                              Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
                              (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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