frustrating bogging and ELECTRICAL? problem

[KitKat]

Thank you for explaining it so precisely. I will do that the first chance i get tomorrow.

I will keep you guys up to date to see what my voltmeter and some other things i do that you guys suggested, and how they turn out


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[KitKat]

So to measure the voltage going to the coils, its the orange wire that supplies power to both of them.

Do i have to remove the wire from one coil or something to measure it?


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[KitKat]

ill post pictures on here soon, i found the red wire that connects to the r/r, and so some of you suggested to wire straight with an in-line fuse to the battery positive terminal?

I coulnd't find the green wire that is supposed to be the ground.

All the wires that connect to the r/r wrap around, under the tank, and into the headlight bucket, making them pretty hard to trace.

Help?

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[KitKat]

figuring out this r/r

close up of the wires (attempt)




bundle of wires that i traced them joining into to go into the headlight bucket






another close up of wires





r/r position relative to bike. This is the left side cover (if you are sitting on the bike)




So the rightmost red wire in that connects to the r/r, should i wire it with an in-line fuse to the battery positive terminal?

Also, can any1 identify where the ground wire is?????

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[KitKat]

coil voltage

i just measured the volts from the coils without doing my turn signal trick..

The voltage was bouncing all over anywhere from around 7 - 13 volts, and it would increase if giving the bike some gas. it didn't seem to make much of a difference when i applied the turn signals, and it never has when im just sitting in nuetral, the turn signals only seem to me to make a power difference when i am actually driving.

Any1 have any other things i can test? or help?????

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[KitKat]

is voltage measuring at the coils AC or DC?

i know its a beginner question but i just don't know

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[lucabond]

Dc volts at the coil. the only ac on the bike comes from the stator those are the 3 wires that come out of the starter cover and go the the RR.

[KitKat]

also, i was going to go through my harness. ANy1 have a wiring diagram for an 82 gs 300L bikecliff's site didn't have one but it had a gs450, can i use that instead? are they basically the same??


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ill remeasure the coil volts

[KitKat]

just did the coil volts again

They were both consistantly around 12.3 V, without the turn signals. When applying the turn signals, the left seemed to go down .X volts (but still in the 12's) X = maybe 1 -3. and the right went up .X volts, X being the same number.

How does this sound? Thats around battery voltage, so it sounds good to me.

If this is not my problem, im checking the wiring in the r/r?

what wires could potentially be the problem?

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[lucabond]

there will be some differances but I think the colors used are the same ie orange and white tends to be for the ignition.

[lucabond]

It sounds like the voltage at your coils are about right if that is the same the battey shows. You need 2 things for current to flow a supply and a return which is the ground. From what you decribed earlier i think you charging system maybe ok. Voltage and current are related if 1 goes up the other goes down. So if you bike isnt drawing much current say because the coils arnt drawing full current you could have a high voltage like 16 at the battery.
I would try and measure the battery voltage first without the light trick and then with it to see if the voltage goes down when the bike picks up. I'm thinking you have a bad ground somewhere. The coils themselves get ground thru the mounting bolts so make sure the are tight and the metal is clean where the coils mount to the bike.

[KitKat]

i will do exactly what you said right now and get back to you very shortly with hopefully happy results.

Thank you so much for your quick responses to my questions.

You are greatly appreciated

[KitKat]

Did some work, no improvement

So i just went through the r/r wires, and all looked ok. Looked at a wiring diagram for a 450 and it had an inline fuse for one wire off the battery that connects to it at the starter solenoid. Mine didn't have a fuse. Installed an inline 20 amp fuse. Looked at the coils. Volts were consistantly above 12. Took em off, cleaned contacts and mounting points.

Took it for a drive. Drove great the first couple of seconds. then started to bog. Turned the turn signals on. Leapt forward the moment it flashes, bogs the moment the light goes off. Then leaps again.

I will go through the wiring diagram again (the 450 one) and check all of my grounds.

What can be causing the turn signals to give it the extra power, it does not gain any extra power from the highbeam; only the turn signals do????????????????

please help with this problem, no one i have talked to has ever experienced this before.

Thanks in advance

[KitKat]

bump (help please)

i have been trying everything i know and what you guys are suggesting yet nothing seems to have any effect whatsoever

Any1 have any other ideas?



How does one test their r/r?

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[mriddle]

I just emailed to you a GS300L wire diagram.