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    Bias-ply tires and flat spots. True/False?

    I've heard that bias-ply tires can develop "flat" spots in the belts if they sit too long without moving, but that the flat spots will work themselves out over some miles.

    Is this true?

    It certainly feels like this is the case on my bike. It sat for a long time unused in the PO's garage, and since I got the bike a couple of months ago, it's been sitting (until today! Woo-hoo!) in various stages of repair.

    If it is in fact true, does anyone have a ballpark idea of how long it will take for the flat spot to go away?

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    Originally posted by wkmpt View Post
    I've heard that bias-ply tires can develop "flat" spots in the belts if they sit too long without moving, but that the flat spots will work themselves out over some miles.

    Is this true?

    It certainly feels like this is the case on my bike. It sat for a long time unused in the PO's garage, and since I got the bike a couple of months ago, it's been sitting (until today! Woo-hoo!) in various stages of repair.

    If it is in fact true, does anyone have a ballpark idea of how long it will take for the flat spot to go away?
    I'd say if the tires are old enough to have developed flat spots they're old enough to be replaced. I'd check the date codes on the tires before riding on them.....


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      #3
      Originally posted by Joe Nardy View Post
      I'd say if the tires are old enough to have developed flat spots they're old enough to be replaced. I'd check the date codes on the tires before riding on them.....


      Thanks,
      Joe
      Ditto

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        #4
        If it sat with a flat tire, perhaps. Otherwise, not on bikes.

        Eric

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          #5
          Need more info. How old are the tires and how long have they sat in one position? What brand?

          To develope a noticeable flat spot they would need to have fully deflated. If this were the case, it is likely the side wall is affected (i.e.has become checked or split) which is a dangerous condition.If they are old tires and have hardened at all the spot will not likely go away but will always be noticeable. If this is the case, they are also likely unsafe and should be changed.

          If the tires are newer (a year or so)decent quality and still pliable then the spot should work out in a couple of weeks ( or less) of use. if possible let them sit in the sun to warm up prior to riding and make sure they are inflated. It might be best to slightly over inflate..but no more than by say 5 psi and only until the tire returns to shape.

          Whatever you do please be careful and remember your tires are all that hold you up as you cruise along. Make sure they are in good and serviceable condition.

          Ride safe,
          Spyug

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            #6
            Originally posted by wkmpt View Post
            I've heard that bias-ply tires can develop "flat" spots in the belts if they sit too long without moving, but that the flat spots will work themselves out over some miles.

            Is this true?

            It certainly feels like this is the case on my bike. It sat for a long time unused in the PO's garage, and since I got the bike a couple of months ago, it's been sitting (until today! Woo-hoo!) in various stages of repair.

            If it is in fact true, does anyone have a ballpark idea of how long it will take for the flat spot to go away?
            that thing still have spoke rims on it?? Did you let the tires go flat or get low? Have you checked the spoke (if it has em) rims for true??

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              #7
              The flat spot seems to be only on the front tire, a Bridgestone 'Spitfire'. I'm unsure of the age of the tire (how do I check the date code btw?), though I suspect they are at least two or three years old. There isn't any cracking or dry rot on the tire that I can find. I've only had the bike a few months, how long it sat and at what level of inflation it had with the PO I can't say.

              There is a heck of a lot of tread left in the tire, I'm hoping to find out I can safely keep riding on it. Funds for a new tire are non-existent.

              That being said, from all your responses, I'm getting this sinking feeling I'm just going to have to park it until I can afford to re-tire her.

              I'd rather not ride for a few weeks or months than have a potential disaster and never be able to ride again...but still <sigh>.

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                #8
                Originally posted by TheCafeKid View Post
                that thing still have spoke rims on it?? Did you let the tires go flat or get low? Have you checked the spoke (if it has em) rims for true??
                Mags. 5-point star style. Tires have never been flat on my watch, but I've only had her a few months.

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                  #9
                  My shadow spirit would do the same thing on the front if it sat for a week or more. It would get a flat spot on it, but would feel like it went away after about 5-8 miles of riding to work. The tire was also natorious for leaking air for some reason. I attributed the low pressure to the development of the flat spot.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by wkmpt View Post
                    The flat spot seems to be only on the front tire, a Bridgestone 'Spitfire'. I'm unsure of the age of the tire (how do I check the date code btw?), though I suspect they are at least two or three years old.
                    Hi,

                    I found this page on some guy's website:

                    Tire Info/Changing Tires

                    There's an article on how to read the date code on your tires.

                    I would start thinking hard about replacing tires if they are more than 4 years old.


                    Thank you for your indulgence,

                    BassCliff

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                      #11
                      The side walls and tread of my tires look good but after learning here about the date code, I see that the front is an '04 and the rear is an '03. Is it a no-brainer to replace these or can the visual inspection be a cause to give them a little time?
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by 1948man View Post
                        The side walls and tread of my tires look good but after learning here about the date code, I see that the front is an '04 and the rear is an '03. Is it a no-brainer to replace these or can the visual inspection be a cause to give them a little time?
                        Some people here may disagree but I'd run those tires assuming they stick well enough for you. They are old, but not so old that you need to trash them straight away.
                        Ed

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                          #13
                          [QUOTE=wkmpt;1059039]The flat spot seems to be only on the front tire, a Bridgestone 'Spitfire'. I'm unsure of the age of the tire (how do I check the date code btw?),
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                          1999 and older tires had a three digit date code stamped on the sidewall.
                          The first two numbers were week of the year. The third number was year.
                          For example 327 would be the 32nd week of 1997.

                          Beginning with the year 2000, the date code stamped on the sidewall is four
                          digits. The first two digits are week of the year. The last two are the year.
                          For example 4103 is the 41st week 2003.

                          If your tires have a three digit date code, I would forget riding on them
                          regardless of how good they looked.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by earlfor View Post
                            For example 327 would be the 32nd week of 1997.
                            The really sad part of this is that the same date code could indicate a 1987 or even a 1977 tire.

                            That is why they went to a 4-digit code starting in 2000.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Steve View Post
                              The really sad part of this is that the same date code could indicate a 1987 or even a 1977 tire.

                              That is why they went to a 4-digit code starting in 2000.

                              .

                              The three digit code was not a great problem since riding a motorcycle on ten year old tires is accepted as verification of legal insanity with a determined death wish in all 50 states.

                              Earl
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