Why is my oil window empty while motor is on???

[outlawfox13]

Well I know that too much oil in a presurized system will cause problems. So haveing more oil will cause more pressure, not saying the F line os over full but you may have to watch it more. That is why I go half way. I know this from working on cars. So just like a car, you should have oil between F and L. Otherwise you will start blowing gaskets, or having serious engine problems.

And the reason you dont fill tires to max is because of driving conditions, ie cold, loaded, unloaded. For example say a ballon could only hold 10 psi max, and you squeeze it and it pops, now you put 7 psi and squeeze it and it will absorbe more pressure, before it pops. I know the rubber is thinner, but same principle.

[Calvin Blackmore]

Well I know that too much oil in a presurized system will cause problems. So haveing more oil will cause more pressure. I know this from working on cars. So just like a car, you should have oil between F and L. Otherwise you will start blowing gaskets, or having serious engine problems.

And the reason you dont fill tires to max is because of driving conditions, ie cold, loaded, unloaded. For example say a ballon could only hold 10 psi max, and you squeeze it and it pops, now you put 7 psi and squeeze it and it will absorbe more pressure, before it pops. I know the rubber is thinner, but same principle.

Giys I am not talking about over full I am saying full especially in cases where you will rapidly lose oil due to hard running.

I once stopped after a 80-max speed hour long run only to find oil was not coing up to L even after sitting for a few minutes.

I would rather start at F to have a buffer especially as it should not casue any detriment tot he bike by doing so.

AS long a your Crankcase vent is working things should be fine yes?

[outlawfox13]

Yes things will be fine if you stay at F, Just saying that make sure not to over fill that is all. If you know your bike burns oil, then starting at F is cool, but after an hour of riding at 80 mph should not burn that much. Ya might want to look into that. But if you start over filling, then you could run into potential problems.

Giys I am not talking about over full I am saying full especially in cases where you will rapidly lose oil due to hard running.

I once stopped after a 80-max speed hour long run only to find oil was not coing up to L even after sitting for a few minutes.

I would rather start at F to have a buffer especially as it should not casue any detriment tot he bike by doing so.

AS long a your Crankcase vent is working things should be fine yes?

[Calvin Blackmore]

Yes things will be fine if you stay at F, Just saying that make sure not to over fill that is all. If you know your bike burns oil, then starting at F is cool, but after an hour of riding at 80 mph should not burn that much. Ya might want to look into that. But if you start over filling, then you could run into potential problems.

min 80 to max speed 9500 RPM at 120 MPH indicated on a hot summer day.
a rare occurence but my god it was fun

[tkent02]

Giys I am not talking about over full I am saying full especially in cases where you will rapidly lose oil due to hard running.

I once stopped after a 80-max speed hour long run only to find oil was not coing up to L even after sitting for a few minutes.

Time to rebuild your engine?

[Nessism]

Perhaps, but does it accomplish anything? The output volume and pressure from the oil pump will be the same regardless of how much oil is in
the reservoir. There is nohing to be gained by exceeding the specifications.

Earl

The "specification" you refer to is only an approximate amount. Suzuki lists two oil quantities: for a bone dry engine and during an oil change with residule oil still inside the engine. The amount of oil remaining depends on the oil viscosity, the oil temperature when you drain it, whether or not you are parked on a slope or on the kick stand, ect. It's best to add enough to see on the window, run the engine for a while to distribute the oil, get the bike in the center stand if you have one, turn off the engine and then wait about one min. before topping off the oil to the top hash mark. Having the max allowable oil in the engine will never hurt anything and could even help in some situations.

[SqDancerLynn1]

First all you who have commented. Filling it up to the FULL MARK IS NOT OVERFILLING IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOTHING WILL HAPPEN. Check it with the bike sitting on the tires & upright level.
I would be conserned if the window was not empty

[earlfor]

Giys I am not talking about over full I am saying full especially in cases where you will rapidly lose oil due to hard running.

How would hard running cause loss of oil? When I lived in south Fl, I used to make a back road run across the Everglades from the west coast to the east coast at Miami. There was one stretch that was flat and straight for 83 miles with no intersecting highways and only one curve. I ran the 1150E for that 83 miles many times at WOT all the way across. The oil level was never any different afterward.

But, its your bike, so you can fill it to any level you like. heh

Earl

[outlawfox13]

As I have read we are saying that The F is not over filling it, we are just commenting on to becarefull when the oil gets that high since it is easy to over fill at that point.

First all you who have commented. Filling it up to the FULL MARK IS NOT OVERFILLING IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOTHING WILL HAPPEN. Check it with the bike sitting on the tires & upright level.
I would be conserned if the window was not empty

Thanks though for saying so I was noticeing that it was starting to get outa hand. Thats why I was saying that F is not over filled.

[earlfor]

First all you who have commented. Filling it up to the FULL MARK IS NOT OVERFILLING IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOTHING WILL HAPPEN. Check it with the bike sitting on the tires & upright level.
I would be conserned if the window was not empty

Just a comment, and it may be true of my bike and not for any other, whatever. If I drain the oil out of my bike and then refill the crankcase with the amount the factory service manual specifies, the oil level will be midway between the low and high mark on the sight window.

Earl

[Steve]

Wow.

After reading a discussion like this, I am glad that I don't even have a sight glass on my Wing. I have a dipstick that is well-enough hidden that I have to remove TWO pieces of 'Tupperware' to get to it. No worries, though, I never have to check it. Due to my rather intense traveling for work this summer, I went just over 10,000 miles on the last oil change, instead of the usual 5,000. I checked the oil just before I drained it and it was still comfortably over the LOW mark on the stick. Not bad for 155,000+ miles.

Oh, no worries about the extra mileage, either. Honda recommends 8,000 mile intervals with dino oil, I change it early at 5,000.
I am using Rotella synthetic, so I am not worried about going 10,000 if necessary, especially since they are long miles, not the typical short trips found in commuting.
I have done over 20,000 miles on the bike in the last year, 13,000 of that is since Memorial Day, just 4 months ago.

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[rkubik]

so... how do you see this? Acrobatic riding LOL!

[Calvin Blackmore]

How would hard running cause loss of oil? When I lived in south Fl, I used to make a back road run across the Everglades from the west coast to the east coast at Miami. There was one stretch that was flat and straight for 83 miles with no intersecting highways and only one curve. I ran the 1150E for that 83 miles many times at WOT all the way across. The oil level was never any different afterward.

But, its your bike, so you can fill it to any level you like. heh

Earl

WOT in an 1150 my god what were you doing like 130 140 MPH?

I may have had too light an oil or it could be a fucntion of the rings comined with high ambient temperatures who can say.

[earlfor]

WOT in an 1150 my god what were you doing like 130 140 MPH?

I may have had too light an oil or it could be a fucntion of the rings comined with high ambient temperatures who can say.

Mine was mildly modified, and top end was in the 145-150 range.

Earl