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    At steady 65mph what fuel circuit am I using?

    I don't think I am past 1/4 turn of the throttle.
    Am I on the pilot jet or on the needles?

    83 850g.
    Slight surge at constant speed above 3K rpm.
    Great under load and very slight popping on decel.
    I think I am lean but not sure if it is the pilot jet or needle.

    #2
    Mostly pilots, probably.
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      #3
      Originally posted by andmoon View Post
      I don't think I am past 1/4 turn of the throttle.
      Am I on the pilot jet or on the needles?

      83 850g.
      Slight surge at constant speed above 3K rpm.
      Great under load and very slight popping on decel.
      I think I am lean but not sure if it is the pilot jet or needle.
      Is your exhaust system sealed?
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        #4
        Originally posted by tkent02 View Post
        Mostly pilots, probably.
        I would think a little of both
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          #5
          1 part pilot circuit plus 2 parts needle circuit shaken not stirred.
          Anything over idle is mostly needle until you hit 3/4 throttle and up is main.
          1983 GS 1100E w/ 1230 kit, .340 lift Web Cams, Ape heavy duty valve springs, 83 1100 head with 1.5mm oversized SS intake valves, 1150 crank, Vance and Hines 1150 SuperHub, Star Racing high volume oil pump gears, 36mm carebs Dynojet stage 3 jet kit, Posplayr's SSPB, Progressive rear shocks and fork springs, Dyna 2000, Dynatek green coils and Vance & Hines 4-1 exhaust.
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            #6
            Originally posted by chef1366 View Post
            1 part pilot circuit plus 2 parts needle circuit shaken not stirred.
            Anything over idle is mostly needle until you hit 3/4 throttle and up is main.
            Not quite true , Mr Bond. I vote at 50/50 too. But it depends on the state of tune of the engine. Lower CR's and poorly timed engines could equate to 1/3 to 2/3 values as you have hinted at.
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              #7
              you are running on a combo of 2 circuits

              the bypass circuit (fueled by the pilot jet and pilot air bleed)
              beginning of the needle jet/jet needle and main emulsion tube
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                #8
                Raise the needle or go up one size on pilot jet?

                Bike runs great up to ~ 3000 rpms and under load even if it is slight.
                Worst when holding steady speed on very slight decline. No issues on inclines.

                Valves synced, carbs synced.
                air screws out 3 turns.

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                  #9
                  Are you running a stock intake and exhaust? You really shouldn't need to increase any of your internal carb component sizes if you are.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by drhach View Post
                    Are you running a stock intake and exhaust? You really shouldn't need to increase any of your internal carb component sizes if you are.
                    Bike came to me w/ aftermarket mufflers, stock intake and a really messed up dynojet jet kit installed VERY wrong.

                    I have stock jets and needles back in.

                    I have a feeling the free flow exhaust may be making the bike lean.

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                      #11
                      If you have a dynojet kit install it correctly.
                      1983 GS 1100E w/ 1230 kit, .340 lift Web Cams, Ape heavy duty valve springs, 83 1100 head with 1.5mm oversized SS intake valves, 1150 crank, Vance and Hines 1150 SuperHub, Star Racing high volume oil pump gears, 36mm carebs Dynojet stage 3 jet kit, Posplayr's SSPB, Progressive rear shocks and fork springs, Dyna 2000, Dynatek green coils and Vance & Hines 4-1 exhaust.
                      1985 GS1150ES stock with 85 Red E bodywork.

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                        #12
                        fixed!

                        raised the needles 2 notches.

                        I think the PO just blindly put in the largest jets and needles from some dynojet kit. Not sure if the kit is even for the GS 850.

                        I think I have it back to stock minus the needles. Pics of the stock needles I've seen didn't show the stocks as having slots for raising and lowering the needles. The needles in my bike has 6 or 7 slots.

                        Gracias all

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by andmoon View Post
                          fixed!

                          raised the needles 2 notches.

                          I think the PO just blindly put in the largest jets and needles from some dynojet kit. Not sure if the kit is even for the GS 850.

                          I think I have it back to stock minus the needles. Pics of the stock needles I've seen didn't show the stocks as having slots for raising and lowering the needles. The needles in my bike has 6 or 7 slots.

                          Gracias all

                          Stock needles in my GS didnt have notches either.

                          Glad to know you got it corrected with the needles, just as many suspected.
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by andmoon View Post
                            ... air screws out 3 turns.
                            Just for the record, you don't have "air" screws. They are "idle mixture adjustment screws".

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