replacing oil pan gasket

[kparkfan]

I'm going to be replacing my oil pan and gasket tomorrow. what kind of gasket sealer works best on the gasket?

[Nessism]

You don't need any sealer on the gasket. Just make sure the engine and cover surfaces are clean and free from gasket remnants and/or scratches.

[kparkfan]

Sweet thanks for the reply nessism.

[posplayr]

Well you don't really need anything and and a small (or large) oil leak wont really hurt anything either (unless you forget fill up your crankcase).

Some people at least use sealer on one side and grease on the other. I have started using this on my black motor. There is also a silver variety. I use it on both side and seems to keep the pan and my shoes dry.

http://automotive.hardwarestore.com/90-558-gasket-sealer/rtv-silicone-sealant-adhesive-634303.aspx

[Nessism]

Well you don't really need anything and and a small (or large) oil leak wont really hurt anything either (unless you forget fill up your crankcase).

Some people at least use sealer on one side and grease on the other. I have started using this on my black motor. There is also a silver variety. I use it on both side and seems to keep the pan and my shoes dry.

http://automotive.hardwarestore.com/...ve-634303.aspx

A little silicone won't hurt as long as you don't use too much that is so chunks break loose and clog up the engine. Suzuki never used silicone. If you choose to use silicone, the Ultra Black stuff is superior... http://automotive.hardwarestore.com/...t--634050.aspx

[posplayr]

A little silicone won't hurt as long as you don't use too much that is so chunks break loose and clog up the engine. Suzuki never used silicone. If you choose to use silicone, the Ultra Black stuff is superior... http://automotive.hardwarestore.com/...t--634050.aspx

Yes I forgot ; very sparingly otherwise Ray will slap U

[posplayr]

One more thing dont use this it turns to muck in your motor if it comes in sustained contact with oil.

http://automotive.hardwarestore.com/90-558-gasket-sealer/form-a-gasket-101059.aspx

Fortunately I have lived to tell about it.

[Turtleface]

While we're on the subject of gaskets and sealants, I'm doing my pan tomorrow as well, and my valve cover as well. I completely forgot about new half moons. Can I give them a thin layer of the ultra high black sealant, turn them around so they stay put, and call it a day? There's a very light coat of oil around the two half moons towards the front of the engine, but I'm not sure if it's from them, or the cover gasket, which is definitely leaking. What are the recommended methods for sealant regarding the cover? The gaskets I bought are OEM.

[kparkfan]

I didnt use anything when I did my vave cover gasket. I'd order you some new half moons from z1 and call it a day.

[Nessism]

While we're on the subject of gaskets and sealants, I'm doing my pan tomorrow as well, and my valve cover as well. I completely forgot about new half moons. Can I give them a thin layer of the ultra high black sealant, turn them around so they stay put, and call it a day? There's a very light coat of oil around the two half moons towards the front of the engine, but I'm not sure if it's from them, or the cover gasket, which is definitely leaking. What are the recommended methods for sealant regarding the cover? The gaskets I bought are OEM.

Good plan. Clean the half moon and the head surface with brake cleaner, or similar, and then wipe the curved portion of the half moon with a skim layer of Ultra Black. Button up the top end before the sealer hardens and you should be good to go.

[posplayr]

Ed has probably research this, but I figure to apply a moderate torque to the cover and the after an overnight dry do a final torque. The idea is to avoid squeezing out all the RTV while still pliable. On the other hand it needs to basically conform to the surface.

BTW, I recently installed a new OEM stator gasket on my ED1100 and the gasket has a thin coating of RTV factory applied along the lower side of the cover.

Make me think not all is flush in coverland.

[mike_of_bbg]

You can use a thin bit of sealant on the bottom of the half-moons. Threebond (Suzuki Bond, Honda Bond, Yamabond - all the same stuff) are typically recommended for that. No sealant on the valve cover gasket. A light coat of grease on both sides might help make the gasket re-usable the next time you adjust your valves.

[Turtleface]

Excellent. I notice in my service manual that the adjuster for the valves is square. Do I really need a special tool for this, or will a small wrench do?

If the sticker underneath the seat is right, the valves were last adjusted at 3400 miles. I'm now just a tick over 14,000 miles. What's the chance of a noticeable performance improvement? If I keep the revs below 5,000 or so, I get around 45 mpg.

[kparkfan]

use this link. some where in there it shows you how to make your own tool for less than 2 bucks. I do believe valves should be checked about every 4,000 to 5,000 miles.

Valve Adjustment for 16 Valve Motors

[Turtleface]

Those tappet tools that are linked to at the end of the article are pretty nice looking. I'll have to do the dowel thing for this adjustment, but order some of those before the next one.l