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    I'm new to this forum, and could use a little help--I'm pretty green, so bear with me. just bought a 1980 GS850 and I've discovered the #3 and #4 exhaust are cold, however it's slightly intermittent. sometimes they'll be hot even after a 5 minute idle, but then I'll go for a ride and 20 minutes later they're cold...other times they're cold after idling and heat up after the ride--or not at all.

    I replaced the plugs, and I know I'm getting spark. I'm thinking I just need to clean the carbs. Thoughts? If it's just a carb clean, should I do a carb rebuild in the process?

    My other thought was that I should replace the intake boots and the airbox boots...maybe they're leaking??? the previous owner used some kind of silicone around them, which seems to be a tell.

    I appreciate any advice I can get, thanks.

    #2
    I’d do a full rebuild following the procedures linked in the GSR homepage. Get an O-ring kit from cycleorings.com and get intake boot O-rings at minimum (if your bike has them that is). If the boots are hard and cracked, replace them as well. While you are at it I’d do a valve adjustment unless you know for a fact that they have been properly adjusted within the last 4000 miles. Good luck and welcome.
    Ed

    To measure is to know.

    Mikuni O-ring Kits For Sale...https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...ts#post1703182

    Top Newbie Mistakes thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=171846

    Carb rebuild tutorial...https://gsarchive.bwringer.com/mtsac...d_Tutorial.pdf

    KZ750E Rebuild Thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...0-Resurrection

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      #3
      Originally posted by Surfpilot View Post
      I'm new to this forum, and could use a little help--I'm pretty green, so bear with me. just bought a 1980 GS850 and I've discovered the #3 and #4 exhaust are cold, however it's slightly intermittent. sometimes they'll be hot even after a 5 minute idle, but then I'll go for a ride and 20 minutes later they're cold...other times they're cold after idling and heat up after the ride--or not at all.

      I replaced the plugs, and I know I'm getting spark. I'm thinking I just need to clean the carbs. Thoughts? If it's just a carb clean, should I do a carb rebuild in the process?

      My other thought was that I should replace the intake boots and the airbox boots...maybe they're leaking??? the previous owner used some kind of silicone around them, which seems to be a tell.

      I appreciate any advice I can get, thanks.
      Do the carb cleaning shown on Bike cliff's site, you don't need a rebuild kit, just get some new O rings and possibly float bowl gaskets.

      Adjust your valve clearances also. It will run like it did thirty years ago.
      http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...tatesMap-1.jpg

      Life is too short to ride an L.

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        #4
        Welcome.
        Would you please go to the User CP, edit your details and enter your location. Also while you're there, edit your signature to include what bike you have. Both will help everyone in the long run, so we don't have to guess where you are and what bike you have. Sometimes there is a member right around the corner to help.

        Yes, your carbs should be dipped and rebuilt. Use this.



        Don't waste money on rebuild kits, get your orings here.



        I recommend spending a few days reading and searching this site for info about your bike's problems. There is a huge library of info here.
        Larry D
        1980 GS450S
        1981 GS450S
        2003 Heritage Softtail

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          #5
          Originally posted by Surfpilot View Post
          I'm new to this forum, and could use a little help--I'm pretty green, so bear with me. just bought a 1980 GS850 and I've discovered the #3 and #4 exhaust are cold, however it's slightly intermittent. sometimes they'll be hot even after a 5 minute idle, but then I'll go for a ride and 20 minutes later they're cold...other times they're cold after idling and heat up after the ride--or not at all.

          I replaced the plugs, and I know I'm getting spark. I'm thinking I just need to clean the carbs. Thoughts? If it's just a carb clean, should I do a carb rebuild in the process?

          My other thought was that I should replace the intake boots and the airbox boots...maybe they're leaking??? the previous owner used some kind of silicone around them, which seems to be a tell.

          I appreciate any advice I can get, thanks.
          Carb clean as noted, plus replace anything that has silicone on it

          I think you'll be pleasantly surprised at how it runs on all 4 cylinders
          1978 GS 1000 (since new)
          1979 GS 1000 (The Fridge, superbike replica project)
          1978 GS 1000 (parts)
          1981 GS 850 (anyone want a project?)
          1981 GPZ 550 (backroad screamer)
          1970 450 Mk IIID (THUMP!)
          2007 DRz 400S
          1999 ATK 490ES
          1994 DR 350SES

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            #6
            Adjust your valves and clean your carbs.

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              #7
              add coolant to #1 and 2 pipes

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                #8
                thanks for the advice. I'll definitely re-do the carbs and check the valve clearances. Don-lo, why add coolant to #1 and 2 pipes? what does that do?

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Surfpilot View Post
                  thanks for the advice. I'll definitely re-do the carbs and check the valve clearances. Don-lo, why add coolant to #1 and 2 pipes? what does that do?
                  Cools them. It was a joke. At your expense. I would advise getting revenge.
                  http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...tatesMap-1.jpg

                  Life is too short to ride an L.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by tkent02 View Post
                    Cools them. It was a joke. At your expense. I would advise getting revenge.
                    Why tkent? Because revenge is a dish best served cold?
                    bill

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                      #11
                      I should have picked up on that as a joke...shame on me.
                      Well I pulled the carbs out today and will give them a good clean. I found that the previous owner had put a left side intake boot on the #4 intake. Will this create leakage? I would think so because it's backwards...

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                        #12
                        Sorry, I thought the snickery face () would show it was a joke.

                        but seriously, folks...., this problem could also be caused by #3 & 4 plug wires being switched, although it would run real bad.

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                          #13
                          Posplayr lives in Santa Barbara and I vist him often. We may be able to help.
                          1983 GS 1100E w/ 1230 kit, .340 lift Web Cams, Ape heavy duty valve springs, 83 1100 head with 1.5mm oversized SS intake valves, 1150 crank, Vance and Hines 1150 SuperHub, Star Racing high volume oil pump gears, 36mm carebs Dynojet stage 3 jet kit, Posplayr's SSPB, Progressive rear shocks and fork springs, Dyna 2000, Dynatek green coils and Vance & Hines 4-1 exhaust.
                          1985 GS1150ES stock with 85 Red E bodywork.

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