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Is this stator bad?
Ok so I checked my stator tonight like outlined in the stator papers and I'm not sure about my readings. I should also mention that the motor is off the bike and I purchased the bike in a non-running condition so I could only do the passive tests. There were no wires shorting to ground but when I checked the resistance of each phase, I got a reading of 2.7 ohms for each phase. So does that mean it's bad? I know it might be difficult to determine from just those readings but since the engine is already off the frame, it would be nice if I can fix it now. Thanks.
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almarconi
Replacing the stator is no big deal when the engine is mounted in the frame. Before spending money on a new stator, get the bike running. A bad stator may be the least of your problems. I'm really not sure what your readings mean, since the stator paper tests were meant to be tested on a bike with a charging system installed.
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errorcauser
In the world of electronics, the readings you got mean it's good.
Although if the stator papers call for a lower reading (not sure and not looked and can't remember the exact readings) this could also mean bad connectors on the end of your stator wires causing a high resistance, or a wonky out of calibration volt meter.
At least, with your readings you know it isn't open nor shorted.Last edited by Guest; 12-10-2009, 05:09 AM.
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Your readings mean there's a good chance that it's OK.
The exact resistance readings don't matter a whole lot, as long as they're within reason and the same between all three pairs.
It's also possible for a stator to only fail when in use -- for example, the thermal stress causes the insulation or a wire to pull apart only when hot.
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A stator can test fine on the bench, but fail in situ. A stator can be going well one day, and drop its bundle the next. A stator might never give you a problem. You can rely on a Suzuki GS stator to be unreliable; this is a sad fact of the moral universe which we inhabit.
Ergo, there is no such thing as a "good" stator; all stators are EVIL.
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I agree with most of the above, but would also say If I had the stator off and the insulating plastic of the stator looked old , brittle or worse burnt I would just go ahead and change it. It is at least old and probably got hot. Of course if it is a nice shiny blue one then button it up and complete the rest of the charging checks and precautions.
They are a little pricey, but if you are short of cash there are also some know corsses from other manufactures that can be had cheap. (Chef1366 knows)
Part of the evil as tfb mentions is bad connections at the R/R can cause the stator to fry.
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Theo
Thanks for all of the advice. Yeah, I'm trying to not spend anything to get this bike running again, so whatever I can leave original I will. The stator wires look to be in good shape; still nice and shiny. So I'll leave it and hope for the best. Thanks again.
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This is an intermittent stator. Worked when cool but as it heated up began to short. It is just work to swap it out.
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Originally posted by tfb View PostErgo, there is no such thing as a "good" stator; all stators are EVIL.
I have not had the stator cover off for a visual check (was holding off to see the outcome of charging checks), but the wires coming out of the harness are the original colors. The wires on the R/R are also the original colors. The connectors all appear to be the original bullets. Except for the bypass of the loop up toward the (non-existant) headlight switch, it all appeared STOCK. Charging wasn't bad at 13.6, but a separate wire from the R/R to the battery took that to 14.2.
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Originally posted by posplayr View PostThat one does look great
See the three yellow wires?
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Originally posted by Theo View PostThat's interesting if that's true because the PO said he didn't touch the charging system at all. Maybe the PPO changed it.
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Originally posted by Theo View Post....
.... There were no wires shorting to ground but when I checked the resistance of each phase, I got a reading of 2.7 ohms for each phase. So does that mean it's bad?
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To say about the same thing as others have said:
- As long as all three are about the same and just a few ohms (and not zero, and not infinite) then that is a good test that the coils are not shorted together.
- Does not mean that something might happen as it warms up or as it produces some voltage or as it puts out more current.
- Suzuki manaul just says to check continuity (doesnt state specific ohms).
- Stator papers says 0.5 to 2 ohms, but maybe that is for a Suzuki stock stator.
- You have a aftermarket replacement stator (as seen in photo).
- Your picture seems to be okay.
- a bettter test is the open circuit no load test where measure the voltage with engine running, but you cant do that.
Overall, no known problem with stator.
Reinstall it, and attend to all the other stuff you have there.
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