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    77 GS750 Help & Ideas

    Ok i have a 1977 GS750 when i got it it was in pieces. The PO had removed the cylinder head and then for some reason they then parked the rest of the bike outside with only a blanket covering the engine The cylinders are rusted so i know im going to have to bore it out. Im wanting to go with 850 pistons and if i understand everything right i can do this with no other modifications am i right??? There is some rust on the crank but i think its only light and shouldnt be a problem once i get it cleaned off. The engine has about 50 thousand miles on it im not sure how far i want to go with it everything feels tight if money wasnt an issue i would go all out and replace everything but im on a budget. Should i replace the crank and rod bearings?? If so how hard is it to do or is that something a machine shop has to do? let me know what you think
    Thanks






    #2
    It's not how the crank looks that might be a problem, it's the bearings. Unfortunately, they can not be seen with everything assembled.

    If you do choose to use the 850 pistons and cylinders, you will have to restrict your search to a set from a '79 850.

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      #3
      Would i have to replace the cylinders of could i just have them bored out ?

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        #4
        I'll have to let someone who has done that answer that one for you.
        I have only read about how easy it is to drop a set of 850 cylinders on there.
        I don't know if the 750 cylinders can be bored that far.

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        mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
        hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
        #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
        #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
        Family Portrait
        Siblings and Spouses
        Mom's first ride
        Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
        (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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          #5
          Continue your strip down before making a decision on those 850 pistons.

          One of your pics shows heavy rusting right up to the big end. If moisture has carried on down into the big end, the bearing could be pitted. If that has happened, you will be up for bearing replacements which involves a specialist machine shop pressing the old pins out and fitting up new ones. You could oil up the big end areas and try rotating the crank. If you feel any restriction to free movement, you will definitely need to replace the all the bearings.

          Your 750 sleeves can be bored to take the 850 pistons, but the sleeve thickness is reduced to 1.5mm (0.060"). Personally, this is below the minimum that I would go. I have left 2mm on my 850 re-bore. Having said that , others have gone to 1.5mm. I haven't heard of problems, but you need to ask around. Inadequate heat dissipation and bore distortion are the enemies when you get too thin.
          :) The road to hell is paved with good intentions......................................

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            #6
            Man, that's sketchy.
            1983 GS 1100E w/ 1230 kit, .340 lift Web Cams, Ape heavy duty valve springs, 83 1100 head with 1.5mm oversized SS intake valves, 1150 crank, Vance and Hines 1150 SuperHub, Star Racing high volume oil pump gears, 36mm carebs Dynojet stage 3 jet kit, Posplayr's SSPB, Progressive rear shocks and fork springs, Dyna 2000, Dynatek green coils and Vance & Hines 4-1 exhaust.
            1985 GS1150ES stock with 85 Red E bodywork.

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              #7
              Everything rotates freely and smooth no catching or grinding

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                #8
                Boring a cylinder is expensive, it's far cheaper to find someone with a decent used 850 cylinder and hone it instead. Regarding that crank, if the bearings turn smoothly you might want to take a chance on it but used 750 cranks can be had pretty cheap (in the $30 range) so you might want to check around. Only real problem with getting a used crank is paying the shipping cost since the dang things are very heavy.
                Ed

                To measure is to know.

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                  #9
                  Here's what you need for the conversion for only $70.

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                    #10
                    Look up Tkent02, he has a kit I'm sure he would sell cheap. I did a trade with him for some engine parts a while back and he was good to deal with.
                    Ed

                    To measure is to know.

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                    Top Newbie Mistakes thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=171846

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