Patience

[jskellington]

The sump screen's been removed, even though, as several pointed out, it didn't need to be. Once the new screen was bought, however, and once I got a look at the infernal phillips head screws, there was no turning back . . . and speaking of the new sump screen, here's a head scratcher. It has, as you can see in the picture, the lip of the screen folded over at regular intervals, unlike the original screen, which fit over the rim of the sump like a lid fits on a jar.

This is the correct part, by the way. I did some research* and discovered that the original design was superseded some years later. (part no. 16520-45000 by 16520-45010) my question is, from an engineering perspective, is there some reason for the design change? My only guess would be that it creates small channels for the oil to flow more quickly back into the pan . . .

* http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&c...&aql=&aqi=&oq=

[mustangflyr]

Screws

The phillips head screws on GS's are JIS, I bought a set and when you compare them to a #2 bit there is an obvious difference. Just put one on a screw and check the fit.

[hikermikem]

Looking at your pics of both screens, it looks as though the new design incorporates an internal "seal ring" on the inside, presumably to strengthen/seal the screen to the housing...

The older one shows only intermittent spot welds which could break, or allow larger particles to flow through the adjacent unwelded sections of screens.

I like the newer one better

[posplayr]

if you have the proper bit, I have had about a 90% sucess rate with phillips head screw removal using a ratchet attachment. You have to press hard.

After removal get rid of them.

[Steve]

Inspiration. What about the lineman's pliers?

crude but effective ...

Vice Grip pliers coming in from the side would have taken those screws right out assuming there is enough room to get at them.

You know, I seem to recall that that very idea was proposed waaayyy back in post #3.

Can you get some Vise-grips or Channel-locs on them?

I guess it wasn't seen because it was only posted about 40 HOURS before the "victory" post.

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[jskellington]

Steve, all replies were digested and as it turned out, all were incorporated at some stage in the proceedings. Your suggestion did take the prize as it turned out, and credit should have been judiciously apportioned last night, had I not injudiciously swallowed two treble (or was it quadruple) gin and tonics . . . however, I am prepared to remedy the oversight!

Would you like the phillips head screws, the old screen, or both?

[chef1366]

Steve, all replies were digested and as it turned out, all were incorporated at some stage in the proceedings. Your suggestion did take the prize as it turned out, and credit should have been judiciously apportioned last night, had I not injudiciously swallowed two treble (or was it quadruple) gin and tonics . . . however, I am prepared to remedy the oversight!

Would you like the phillips head screws, the old screen, or both?

Nah, just let him be pious.

[Steve]

You guys had better be careful. My next job assignment just might take me to the west coast
(if it's still there after the rain this week) and I might just have to come visit you.

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[chef1366]

You guys had better be careful. My next job assignment just might take me to the west coast
(if it's still there after the rain this week) and I might just have to come visit you.

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OOOHHHHH I'm scared

[bonanzadave]

It has, as you can see in the picture, the lip of the screen folded over at regular intervals, unlike the original screen, which fit over the rim of the sump like a lid fits on a jar.

This is the correct part, by the way. I did some research* and discovered that the original design was superseded some years later. (part no. 16520-45000 by 16520-45010) my question is, from an engineering perspective, is there some reason for the design change? My only guess would be that it creates small channels for the oil to flow more quickly back into the pan . . .

Anyone gonna answer this question ? I would be inclined to flip the new screen over and install it with the 6 flange crimps pointing down.....

Disregard if thats what youre doing.

[Nessism]

I would be inclined to flip the new screen over and install it with the 6 flange crimps pointing down.....

Disregard if thats what youre doing.

Any why would that be? Looks to me like the side with the crimps gos up against the pickup tube.

[Steve]

OOOHHHHH I'm scared

.....Good.


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[bonanzadave]

Any why would that be? Looks to me like the side with the crimps gos up against the pickup tube.

the original screen, which fit over the rim of the sump like a lid fits on a jar.

If that new screen is the same diameter is it possible that the crimps will cause interference so the screen wont fit flat ?

[chef1366]

I'm pretty sure the crimps would face away from the mounting surface.

[ozarkdrb]

Get a better tool!

Ok...
My wife contacted a bud of mine to get me a gift for Christmas and I recieved a FULL set of MAATCO screwdrivers.
NEVER would i believe the difference that precision fit has helped in taking apart two bikes and a jeep. The Japanese Industrial crosshead is indeed a bit different and it truly helps a successful repair to have more confidence removing those suckers! I almost always replace w/ hex head.
I am 53 yrs old and have eaten away a ton of screwheads. I wish the best tools on everybody as well as eternally good lead/acid batteries!
Oh! These suckers fit guns much better also where you REALLy don't want to slip!
Ozarkdrb