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    How can I get rid of this much carbon?

    Well, I finally got off my lazy derriere and decided to get back to work my my GS1000. It's raining all the time here and I can't enjoy my new Bandit, so I'll give my GS some attention.

    I'm picking up on a half-done rebuild. (long story).

    Anyway, take a look at the pictures below of my pistons and heads:
    (Apologies for the crummy camera)







    What's the best way to deal with all of that carbon build up? I don't want to damage the pistons. Are these salvageable?

    #2
    guess what; there are many ways from soaking, wire brushing and wallnut shell blasting. If you dont want to take them off, then wallnut blasting might be the easiest.

    Do a search

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      #3
      Yep, been there, done that. Had the same problem.




      I had pretty good results using a brass-bristle cup brush and a cordless drill.




      Be sure to cover the top of the crankcase below the pistons to catch any debris that comes off.




      Finished job. Might have been about half an hour, likely less.




      I had gotten a replacement because of a damaged spark plug hole, but I might not have done too much to clean the original head.

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        #4
        I did mine with a wire wheel and they came up clean as a whistle.

        What you can do to get the bulk of it off is use some mineral spirits or kerosene to soften up the carbon. Scrape it off with a plastic spatula then finish up with the wire wheel ( in your drill).

        To get all the "grit" sprinkle with a bit of oil and wipe with a shop towel.

        For the valves you should dissassemble the head and after cleaning the valves lap them into their seats. Be sure to keep a record of where each valve goes and use the springs that are applicable to each.

        Not a hard project , just fiddly.

        Cheers,
        Spyug

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          #5
          Blast them with baking soda. If any gets in the engine it dissolves.
          1981 GS650G , all the bike you need
          1980 GS1000G Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely

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            #6
            what do you wirewheel guys do about the ring grooves?

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              #7
              Originally posted by posplayr View Post
              what do you wirewheel guys do about the ring grooves?
              Just what I was thinking, almost the most important part of the job...

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                #8
                Overnight in Berryman's it will wipe off with a tissue.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by posplayr View Post
                  what do you wirewheel guys do about the ring grooves?
                  The ring grooves did not seem so bad, so I did not worry about them.


                  Originally posted by doctorgonzo View Post
                  Overnight in Berryman's it will wipe off with a tissue.
                  Yeah, but that means that you would have to remove the pistons from the rods, then re-assemble with new circlips.

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                  hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
                  #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
                  #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
                  Family Portrait
                  Siblings and Spouses
                  Mom's first ride
                  Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by doctorgonzo View Post
                    Overnight in Berryman's it will wipe off with a tissue.
                    That's what I did; rings and all. A tissue might be pushing it a bit, but yeah it comes off a lot easier after 24 hours in the dip. Think I used a brass brush, lightly.

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                      #11
                      Remove them and do it right.

                      Unless you think it's easy to go back in again

                      Use a broken ring to remove carbon, or a specialty tool. The pistons can be soda blasted easier too.
                      1981 GS650G , all the bike you need
                      1980 GS1000G Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by gearhead13 View Post
                        Just what I was thinking, almost the most important part of the job...
                        thats is why I said blasting is easiest

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by mike_of_bbg View Post
                          That's what I did; rings and all. A tissue might be pushing it a bit, but yeah it comes off a lot easier after 24 hours in the dip. Think I used a brass brush, lightly.
                          I dropped the stock pistons from my 1000 in Berrymans overnight, and they cleaned up with toothbrush, not a spec of carbon. so yeah, tissue was a bit of an exaggeration, but not much.

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                            #14
                            This is what I did with mine. Berryman's in a paint roller pan. Worked great !!!




                            This what they looked like before...I didn't take any after.

                            Larry D
                            1980 GS450S
                            1981 GS450S
                            2003 Heritage Softtail

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                              #15
                              Why would you want to get rid of that excellent protective coating?

                              I can understand cleaning up the valves and ports but the piston heads?

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