oil

[thicklotto]

Hi, This is for all GS1100G owners in the UK.
This engine has roller bearings and needs decent oil.
Can you tell me which oil to use. It is due for a change and I have never done it before.

[goggles]

take a look here

Read through this this thread. Not sure how much might apply with you being in UK but might start you in the right direction.

http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum/showthread.php?t=153324&highlight=oil

[BassCliff]

Hi,

Click below...

http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum/search.php

In the "Keyword Search" area, type in 'oil' and use the pull-down menu to choose "Search Titles Only". Click the "Submit" button and you will find everything you ever wanted to know about oil.


Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff

[Nessism]

Hi,

Click below...

http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum/search.php

In the "Keyword Search" area, type in 'oil' and use the pull-down menu to choose "Search Titles Only". Click the "Submit" button and you will find everything you ever wanted to know about oil.


Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff

Good advice here from Cliff as always. And when you are reading those oil thread don't believe everything you read...unless it was stated by me of course.

[Suzuki_Don]

...unless it was stated by me of course.

WE all trust your opinion ED

[Einstein]

If you're looking for a good quality oil, that doesn't cost the earth... checkout the Halfords own brand 10/40 Semi Synthetic...
And the next tip, is to stock up when they have it on offer..

John

[hampshirehog]

For what it's worth I've always used Duckhams or GTX. I know there's been lots of talk about the lower zinc levels in GTX now compared to a few years back but I still knock up reasonable mileages and haven't noticed anything changing in terms of wear etc.

One of my mates designs oils for Repsol and Chevron for specialist applications (including race motors) and he uses GTX in his bike fleet so that gives me confidence as well.

The key is to change the oil regularly.

[Nessism]

For what it's worth I've always used Duckhams or GTX. I know there's been lots of talk about the lower zinc levels in GTX now compared to a few years back but I still knock up reasonable mileages and haven't noticed anything changing in terms of wear etc.

One of my mates designs oils for Repsol and Chevron for specialist applications (including race motors) and he uses GTX in his bike fleet so that gives me confidence as well.

The key is to change the oil regularly.

I used to be a believer in the "motor oil is motor oil" philosophy, but with GTX (and most all auto oils) now running about 40% less zinc than diesel oil, I've changed my thinking.

[chef1366]

I thought the eight valve 1100s has a plain bearing crank?

[bwringer]

I thought the eight valve 1100s has a plain bearing crank?

Nope. Roller bearing.

[1948man]

Glad to hear that.

[feelergaugephil]

DONT RUN CAR OIL,,, duckhams or GTX, that's for a car! It wont do for bike engines.
Bike engines go to 8000rpm and higher, cars go to maybe 6000rpm, bike oil has better tolerance additives for the higher range.
If you use car oil, keep the revs down and change to motorcycle oil asap.
(I've had 2 GS1000G's)
Believe or not, I was having a simular discussion with my local motorcycle dealer, he stated that Honda/Yamaha/Kawasaki/Suzuki oils are far better than other oils costing the same, and he proved it............
They for FREE put Honda oil in my 81 GS1000G and I rode for a 1000 miles, the engine ran more smoothly, not sure if it did anything for gas mileage, but it certainly was smoother and the engine was slightly quieter.........
Oh, and change your oil regular, I do ALL my bikes at approx 1500 miles.

[Nessism]

Bike engines go to 8000rpm and higher, cars go to maybe 6000rpm, bike oil has better tolerance additives for the higher range.
If you use car oil, keep the revs down and change to motorcycle oil asap.

We were having a perfectly copacetic oil thread here until you showed up phil. Where are you getting this "bike oil has better tolerance additives" business from and what does this mean?

BTW, diesel oil uses high quality base stock, lots of zinc and other high pressure additives, and lots of detergent and acid neutralizing additives which all prove beneficial to motorcycles, yet diesel engines tend to be low rpm, even compared to car engines. Go figure.

[chef1366]

DONT RUN CAR OIL,,, duckhams or GTX, that's for a car! It wont do for bike engines.
Bike engines go to 8000rpm and higher, cars go to maybe 6000rpm, bike oil has better tolerance additives for the higher range.
If you use car oil, keep the revs down and change to motorcycle oil asap.
(I've had 2 GS1000G's)
Believe or not, I was having a simular discussion with my local motorcycle dealer, he stated that Honda/Yamaha/Kawasaki/Suzuki oils are far better than other oils costing the same, and he proved it............
They for FREE put Honda oil in my 81 GS1000G and I rode for a 1000 miles, the engine ran more smoothly, not sure if it did anything for gas mileage, but it certainly was smoother and the engine was slightly quieter.........
Oh, and change your oil regular, I do ALL my bikes at approx 1500 miles.

It's all in your head.

[pmcburney]

DONT RUN CAR OIL,,, duckhams or GTX, that's for a car! It wont do for bike engines.
Bike engines go to 8000rpm and higher, cars go to maybe 6000rpm, bike oil has better tolerance additives for the higher range.
If you use car oil, keep the revs down and change to motorcycle oil asap.
(I've had 2 GS1000G's)
Believe or not, I was having a simular discussion with my local motorcycle dealer, he stated that Honda/Yamaha/Kawasaki/Suzuki oils are far better than other oils costing the same, and he proved it............
They for FREE put Honda oil in my 81 GS1000G and I rode for a 1000 miles, the engine ran more smoothly, not sure if it did anything for gas mileage, but it certainly was smoother and the engine was slightly quieter.........
Oh, and change your oil regular, I do ALL my bikes at approx 1500 miles.

Here we go again...

Sorry to have to say this, but, look up the word 'gullible' in the dictionary and it will say 'feelergaugephil' .

ANY modern oil, regardless of it's price or provenance (mineral/synthetic), changed regularly will do the job.

Unless it specifically states, on the bottle, 'friction modifiers added' (and even that's open to some discussion) it will do it's intended job in your bike engine.
Car, Truck, Taxi, Diesel, Gas - as long as it's four-stroke engine oil, it will work admirably in a GS engine.

How do you come up with the 6k vs 8k hokum?
An oil would have to be monumentally poor to be incapable of lubricating at 8000 rpm what it could lubricate at 6000 rpm.
Oil doesn't know how fast an engine is turning.

And as for the free oil change... your 'Dealer' has just performed a perfect 'bait and switch' on you and not only haven't you realized it, you've so fallen for it you're telling others about it!
Mate, you've been had.

Dealers are interested in one thing - your money, nothing else.
My advice, ask the same questions at other dealers and see if they'll give you a free engine-full as well, but don't go back to THAT dealer.

There is a massive amount of info on the 'web about oil - it mostly contradicts what you've just written.
Do your research and get informed.


There's one born every minute...
Cheers
Paul