Are GS1100E Clutches Interchangeable?

[posplayr]

don't rely on fiche and such all the time.
hands on is the best method of knowing interchanging parts.
83 had the thinner grooved washer(plus a 1-2mm shim) as did all the 1150's.
on 80-82 you didn't need the extra 1-2 mm shim but it is a good idea to add this shim to keep from shearing the back off of your inner hub during power shifts/hard launches.
on 83 and 1150's add a 1-2mm shim as i have brokin 4-5 inner hubs on 1150's before a well known racer(jessie gatlin) told me how to fix the problem many many moons ago.

So it is the grooved washer that is thinner on the 83 to compensate for 1mm+ shim? The parts microfice shows the same number for #8 on 82-3 GS1100EZ/ED/ESD and the 83 GS1100SD to 80-81 GS1100E

[posplayr]

POSPLAYR how can you have TWO EDs?
Gary from the backwoods I guess.

parts bike; Bill got the Yellow banana and the motor runs like a charm. The other Blue Belle only has 15K miles and Bill was brave enough to pop wheelies on those old tires

[chef1366]

It would have to be the spacer that rides in between the bearing that is thinner. Outside the hub would make no difference. Jim and I tried to install the notched washer only because the other didn't show in a micro-fiche and the washer locked up the clutch by pressing on the id of the hub so the inner spacer is different.

[posplayr]

It would have to be the spacer that rides in between the bearing that is thinner. Outside the hub would make no difference. Jim and I tried to install the notched washer only because the other didn't show in a micro-fiche and the washer locked up the clutch by pressing on the id of the hub so the inner spacer is different.

Ray claims the #3 inner spacers are all the same size

[chef1366]

If the hubs are the same and the large washer is the same then the only difference is the inner spacer. The added washer is the same diameter of the inner spacer to make up the difference as otherwise the larger washer just presses up against the hub. This is the only thing that makes sense to me in this matter.

[blowerbike]

yes the spacer itself is thinner.
sorry...
car lag sittng in still.

[chef1366]

yes the spacer itself is thinner.
sorry...
car lag sittng in still.

Where are you at?

[blowerbike]

yes the spacer itself is thinner.
sorry...
car lag sittng in still.

suzuki added a 1-2mm shim the same dia. of the spacer to make up for the thickness difference.
why???????
i have no clue why they just didn't use the 80-82 spacer and for that matter there's a bunch of other GS's that have the same exact spacer as the 80-82 1100 16v.
if you leave the shim out when using a thin bearing spacer...
when you put it in gear you will have direct drive and pulling in the clutch won't help

[blowerbike]

Where are you at?

i am in my recliner watching it f in snow like crazy.
sinus headache killing me and so on.
i felt a million times better when i was in the phoenix area

[chef1366]

i am in my recliner watching it f in snow like crazy.
sinus headache killing me and so on.
i felt a million times better when i was in the phoenix area

Yeah, that dry heat. I know it well.
If the humidity goes over 20% I start cursing my High School football coach.

[chef1366]

suzuki added a 1-2mm shim the same dia. of the spacer to make up for the thickness difference.
why???????
i have no clue why they just didn't use the 80-82 spacer and for that matter there's a bunch of other GS's that have the same exact spacer as the 80-82 1100 16v.
if you leave the shim out when using a thin bearing spacer...
when you put it in gear you will have direct drive and pulling in the clutch won't help

The only thing this would seem to change is the depth of the area for the steels and fibers. Did Zookey do away with the 10/10 clutch pack with the 1150s? The inner washer only shows up in the 1150 microfiche with the different size shim sizes even though they came in the 83s.

[blowerbike]

The only thing this would seem to change is the depth of the area for the steels and fibers. Did Zookey do away with the 10/10 clutch pack with the 1150s? The inner washer only shows up in the 1150 microfiche with the different size shim sizes even though they came in the 83s.

83 was the only 10 plate cluster monkey.
1150 is the same as 80-82 and some shafties.
suzuki added a shim to bring the 83 spacer back to 80-82 thickness.
i don't know why????they didn't use the 80-82 spacer instead????
FYI
take an 83 shim and add it to your 80-82 or all 1150's and never bust the back off of your inner hub again.
when someone that rides aggressive takes there clutch apart...
look at the back of your inner hub for rub/chatter marks and then you'll know what i'm talking about.
when the heli gear loads and flexes the basket into the inner hub bad things happen.

[gearhead13]

so, if I wanted to add a spacer to my '82 1100 I would put it in behind the outer clutch hub to take up any slack that is allowing my outer hub from wobbling....?

[chef1366]

It goes before the large washer with the oil slots.

[davel]

I was having some of these same problems. Ray and Posplayr helped get to the bottom of it.

Here's a link to the 1150 microfiche

http://www.bikebandit.com/1985-suzuki-motorcycle-gs1150ef/o/m6009

click on "transmission" then "clutch".

Note: there are 4 different part numbers for the "thrust shim (#4)" The thickness of this shim must be selected to attain 0.003" thrust clearance for the outer basket.

82' models did not use this thrust shim. If a thrust shim is used with an 82' spacer you will end up with 0.040"+ of thrust clearance. The basket will wobble badly and likely hit the crankshaft counterweight.