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    Transmission gurus...please check my dogs!!

    OK...the bike was popping out of 2nd under power...
    I've got the trans out and the 2nd gear dogs are worn, but it doesn't seem like it is enough to cause the problem...

    What do you think? The left hand gear with the arrow is the suspect...
    The other gear is from a used trans I picked up off eBay...it's better, but not a lot better.



    Another pic



    Right now I'm thinking of asking the guy who worked on my drag bike trans to re-cut the dogs for me...
    It would be a lot cheaper than the $80 a new gear appears to cost.
    Bob T. ~~ Play the GSR weekly photo game: Pic of Week Game
    '83 GS1100E ~ '24 Triumph Speed 400 ~ '01 TRIUMPH TT600 ~ '67 HONDA CUB

    #2
    I'd send it off to be undercut. A mild one for street. I don't think they look too good. Either one.
    You can buy new gears still. Pricey though.
    1983 GS 1100E w/ 1230 kit, .340 lift Web Cams, Ape heavy duty valve springs, 83 1100 head with 1.5mm oversized SS intake valves, 1150 crank, Vance and Hines 1150 SuperHub, Star Racing high volume oil pump gears, 36mm carebs Dynojet stage 3 jet kit, Posplayr's SSPB, Progressive rear shocks and fork springs, Dyna 2000, Dynatek green coils and Vance & Hines 4-1 exhaust.
    1985 GS1150ES stock with 85 Red E bodywork.

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      #3
      I know just enough about this subject to be dangerious but...how about having the ebay gear back cut? That original gear looks like scrap to me.
      Ed

      To measure is to know.

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        #4
        Send the trans to Fast By Gast. Just tell them it is a street bike & you just want it undercut to keep it in gear. If you are NOT going to take it to the dragstrip, tell them that. Ray.

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          #5
          Short Video showing the procedure we went through to undercut my 07 Kawasaki ZX6R dog gears as I have been a nasty rider hacking too hard at my bikes gears! ...


          these are being done for a kawasaki and have seemingly minimal wear on them

          cool to watch though

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            #6
            Originally posted by Calvin Blackmore View Post
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gFXvgSsAJc

            these are being done for a kawasaki and have seemingly minimal wear on them

            cool to watch though
            Nice video and case in point how a simple job becomes a "project" due to unforeseen complications (such as how to hold that particular gear).
            Ed

            To measure is to know.

            Mikuni O-ring Kits For Sale...https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...ts#post1703182

            Top Newbie Mistakes thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=171846

            Carb rebuild tutorial...https://gsarchive.bwringer.com/mtsac...d_Tutorial.pdf

            KZ750E Rebuild Thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...0-Resurrection

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              #7
              You are showing the dogs on 5th gear that engages the slots on 2nd gear. If you fix or replace 5th gear then you have to fix or replace the 2nd gear output(driven) gear also. It will have beat up slots to match those beat up dogs. Know what I mean? Dar

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                #8
                Originally posted by Calvin Blackmore View Post
                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gFXvgSsAJc

                these are being done for a kawasaki and have seemingly minimal wear on them

                cool to watch though

                Blacksmiths in action. Yikes

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                  #9
                  Thanks for advice guys...unfortunately...I'm going to have to do this on the cheap...
                  Don't have any cash to send things in or buy new gears...

                  I'll update when I'm done.

                  BTW...here is what really worn dogs look like....



                  That was out of the drag bike back in '07...
                  Bob T. ~~ Play the GSR weekly photo game: Pic of Week Game
                  '83 GS1100E ~ '24 Triumph Speed 400 ~ '01 TRIUMPH TT600 ~ '67 HONDA CUB

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by makr View Post
                    Blacksmiths in action. Yikes
                    What is this, the Old West?

                    Originally posted by Baatfam View Post
                    Thanks for advice guys...unfortunately...I'm going to have to do this on the cheap...
                    Don't have any cash to send things in or buy new gears...

                    I'll update when I'm done.

                    BTW...here is what really worn dogs look like....



                    That was out of the drag bike back in '07...
                    Jeebus Bob
                    What did that sound like?
                    1983 GS 1100E w/ 1230 kit, .340 lift Web Cams, Ape heavy duty valve springs, 83 1100 head with 1.5mm oversized SS intake valves, 1150 crank, Vance and Hines 1150 SuperHub, Star Racing high volume oil pump gears, 36mm carebs Dynojet stage 3 jet kit, Posplayr's SSPB, Progressive rear shocks and fork springs, Dyna 2000, Dynatek green coils and Vance & Hines 4-1 exhaust.
                    1985 GS1150ES stock with 85 Red E bodywork.

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                      #11
                      i get 100 bucks(GS resources price) for both complete shafts/ plus shipping...
                      i have 8-10 or so on the shelf.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by blowerbike View Post
                        i get 100 bucks(GS resources price) for both complete shafts/ plus shipping...
                        i have 8-10 or so on the shelf.
                        So you charge seventy-five to the track guys?
                        1983 GS 1100E w/ 1230 kit, .340 lift Web Cams, Ape heavy duty valve springs, 83 1100 head with 1.5mm oversized SS intake valves, 1150 crank, Vance and Hines 1150 SuperHub, Star Racing high volume oil pump gears, 36mm carebs Dynojet stage 3 jet kit, Posplayr's SSPB, Progressive rear shocks and fork springs, Dyna 2000, Dynatek green coils and Vance & Hines 4-1 exhaust.
                        1985 GS1150ES stock with 85 Red E bodywork.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by chef1366 View Post
                          So you charge seventy-five to the track guys?
                          do you mean 175 bucks ?????

                          seriously.......
                          i wonder how much it would cost to buy every part to make a complete transmission if ordered from suzuki....
                          a grand maybe 1500 hundred

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by blowerbike View Post
                            do you mean 175 bucks ?????

                            seriously.......
                            i wonder how much it would cost to buy every part to make a complete transmission if ordered from suzuki....
                            a grand maybe 1500 hundred
                            I was just looking at new shifting forks (three total) and that was a buck-fifty alone.
                            My transmission looks perfect but I had a little trouble speed shifting under extreme load. Can't visually see a problem but my guess would be the forks.
                            1983 GS 1100E w/ 1230 kit, .340 lift Web Cams, Ape heavy duty valve springs, 83 1100 head with 1.5mm oversized SS intake valves, 1150 crank, Vance and Hines 1150 SuperHub, Star Racing high volume oil pump gears, 36mm carebs Dynojet stage 3 jet kit, Posplayr's SSPB, Progressive rear shocks and fork springs, Dyna 2000, Dynatek green coils and Vance & Hines 4-1 exhaust.
                            1985 GS1150ES stock with 85 Red E bodywork.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by chef1366 View Post
                              I was just looking at new shifting forks (three total) and that was a buck-fifty alone.
                              My transmission looks perfect but I had a little trouble speed shifting under extreme load. Can't visually see a problem but my guess would be the forks.
                              lol@ extreme load...
                              how much do you weigh bill????
                              hahahaa

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