Is this engine oil ok to use?

[1_v8_merc]

hey guys, just bought this oil for my 82 650.

Truck Pride- SAE 15W-40(for gas or diesel)
Meets or Exceeds CJ-4,CI-4,C-4 PLUS,CH-4,CH-4,CF-4,CF/SL

Cost $2.40 a quart.
No energy rated crap on it anywhere.

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Will this stuff work for my bike okay?

They were out of the Rotella 15W-40 Diesel, so I bought this.
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Im running expensive motorcycle oil right now, but I just wanna make sure THIS stuff will work, so if it doesn't I have time to take it back!

Thanks!
Mike

[almarconi]

That should work fine in your bike. If they are out of rotella, sometimes I will buy the motorcraft brand 15w-40.

[Wallowgreen]

Ok chaps, often read through these kind of discussions and a number of times have resolved myself to switch to Rotella yet when I go to look for it there's about ten different versions. Well maybe not that many but enough to confuse an oil dumbo like me. Many times I wished someone would post a pic and say "this is the one I use". So, is this the one other's use?

PS, I thought you used castrol syntec blend Mr BassCliff, at least that's what it used to show on your oil and filter change tutorial. Is that diesel oil then?

[mattocs]

I went from 10w-40 Suzuki motorcycle oil to Rotella 15w-40, and shiftingis much smoother with the Rotella, and it was half the price.

[BassCliff]

I thought you used castrol syntec blend Mr BassCliff, at least that's what it used to show on your oil and filter change tutorial. Is that diesel oil then?

Hi,

Yes, I used to use the Castrol Syntec Blend (not a diesel engine oil). But my bike seems to like the diesel engine oils better. I can find the Rotella T 15w40 dino at my local AutoZone for about $13 a gallon. It's not often that the best solution is also the cheapest.

Thanks to my friends here at the GSR forum, I have seen the light!


Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff

[Steve]

... when I go to look for it there's about ten different versions. Well maybe not that many but enough to confuse an oil dumbo like me. ...

If you are looking for "Rotella", I have only ever seen FOUR choices.
1. WHITE JUG, 15w-40, "regular" dino oil, quart size.
2. WHITE JUG, 15w-40, "regular" dino oil, gallon size.
3. BLUE JUG, 5w-40, "synthetic" oil, quart size.
4. BLUE JUG, 5w-40, "synthetic" oil, gallon size.

Any of these will work. The gallon jug is cheaper than buying four separate quarts.

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[Nessism]

I'm not sure if the formula changed but if you stumble across any of the older CI4+ diesel oils they have more zinc and phosphorus than the current CJ4 stuff. Other than this detail just about any diesel oil will work just fine.

[eric_banks32]

A lot of the oil companies had to remove a good portion of the zinc to meet the epa's new guidelines. This was a few years ago. There are zinc additives that can suppliment the oil. I learned the hard way that you have to have the zinc in there. We build vintage road race motors at work for various applications and lost a couple of motors right after they took the zinc out. Not a pretty picture.....

[Wallowgreen]

Alright then, stopped by wally world while I was out and picked up a gallon of white jug 15w40 Rotella T with pictures of an 18 wheeler, tractor and pick up on the back. I assume that means diesel oil even though it doesn't actually say that anywhere. What it does say is "energized protection" I hope that's different to "energy conserving".

It'll be in the 1100 tomorrow with a new filter ready for when the sun finally shows up around here.

[almarconi]

If you are looking for "Rotella", I have only ever seen FOUR choices.
1. WHITE JUG, 15w-40, "regular" dino oil, quart size.
2. WHITE JUG, 15w-40, "regular" dino oil, gallon size.
3. BLUE JUG, 5w-40, "synthetic" oil, quart size.
4. BLUE JUG, 5w-40, "synthetic" oil, gallon size.

Any of these will work. The gallon jug is cheaper than buying four separate quarts.

The Walmart near me also has a 2.5 gallon jug of the 15w-40 for around $25.

[Suzuki_Don]

Cycle oil is "special" because it has additives that have been mandated out of service for cars. We need those additives (notably zinc) because the oil in our engines also lubes the transmission. The action of the gears in the transmission is not found in auto engines, so they get by without the zinc, that tends to foul the catalytic convertors that our bikes do not have. Diesel oils still have more zinc than car oils, but a little less than cycle oils. They also have some good detergents in there to keep all the gunk in suspension for the long oil change intervals found in diesel engines, and that's helpful in our bikes, too. Overall, it's a decent compromise.

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What Zinc and Phosphorus levels should I be looking for in a diesel or synthetic oil to use in my motor. I am currently running it in on dino motor cycle oil from my dealer. What zinc and phosphorus levels are typical in car oils and what should the diesel oil have in it? How much more?

Thanks.

BTW we don't get Rotella in OZ, this is the reason I have to do my own research.

[7981GS]

You guys/gals in Oz actually have several great ones to choose from!
(Download of Shell products in Australia, is below.)

http://www-static.shell.com/static/aus/downloads/product_data_guide/product_data_guide_complete.pdf

The Helix Diesel HX5 is closest to the Rotella offered in the States (Page C10)
Of the other ones that are available there the one on page C11 would be great for use in Death Valley, here! LOL.
Also look at pages C18-C23.
Probably your very best choice, would be the one on page C21.

Daniel

[Nessism]

What Zinc and Phosphorus levels should I be looking for in a diesel or synthetic oil to use in my motor. I am currently running it in on dino motor cycle oil from my dealer. What zinc and phosphorus levels are typical in car oils and what should the diesel oil have in it? How much more?

Thanks.

BTW we don't get Rotella in OZ, this is the reason I have to do my own research.

Dino car oils in the US have about 800 ppm zinc/phosphorus and diesel juice is about 1200. Motorcycle oil is similar to diesel, but often times less. In the UK Castrol GTX auto oil has about 1200 so apparently it's market specific.

[Steve]

The Walmart near me also has a 2.5 gallon jug of the 15w-40 for around $25.

Good to know, but my statement still stands: "I have only seen ..."

Not sure that I would bother with the 2.5 gallon jug, though.
Yeah, I would certainly use it easily enough, but virtually everything I have takes either a quart or a gallon.

Getting a larger bulk container means I might have to actually measure the oil I wanted to use.

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[tkent02]

Getting a larger bulk container means I might have to actually measure the oil I wanted to use.

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What do you mean, doesn't that Golden Wang have the Automatic Oil Filler Pump with Auto Shut Off? It should be right there between the Air Compressor and the Microwave, next to the Coffeemaker.
Or did you get the "Stripper" model?