won't turn over???

[Anonymous]

Bought this bike about a year ago, replaced carbs, cleaned or replaced most else. Turned over when I bought it but now it won't. Has a new battery. Checking now to see if I pulled a wire loose somewhere, but all other electrical working great. Any ideas? Possibly ignitor?

[Anonymous]

There's a HUGE difference between turn over, crank and run.
The first two mean (to me) that the engine will not turn, at all. Meaning it's stuck, frozen, locked.
Not running means (to me) that it will turn over, or crank, but will not start.

So, will it not turn over, or does it not run?

[Anonymous]

I turn the switch on, push the button...nothing, no noise, nothing. In December it turned over & ran. Only thing major I did since then was buy a new battery (fully charged yesterday) and buy new carbs (one was completely un-rebuildable and others were not great). I'm hoping maybe it needs a new starter or ignition coil, but really not sure. Pretty sure it isn't the engine since it ran briefly in December.

[dgeorge]

tlube first thing is to make sure the eng will turn over and is not locked up. Take off the round (used to be points cover) from the right side of the eng. Then try to turn the eng over with a wrench, (only turn clockwise). If it turns over with like that it is more then likely something in the electrical department. I would start at the starter button and clean the contacts there to make sure you are getting good contact when you push the button. Once that was done if it still doesn't turn over with the button check the ground connection to the eng and make sure that it is clean, also try jumping between the wires on the silenoid (sp?) if it still won't turn over you will need to pull the starter out and check it. If the starter won't turn over it may just be the brushes in it. Take the two screws that hold the starter out and check inside to see what shape the brushes are in if they are warn out you will need to replace them and clean the contact surface of the armature. Hope I explained this well enough if not let me know and I will try to clarify it for you. I'm at work so have to type fast so I don't get caught.

[Anonymous]

Put the bike in 5th gear and try to turn the rear tire. This makes sure the engine isn't locked up.
Unplug the small (orange??) wire on the starter solenoid and touch it to the + post of the battery. The engine should turn over. The key does not have to be on for this. Put the bike back in neutral first though.
If the engine turns over, the problem exists between the key and the solenoid. I've done this one: Is the kill switch on?
If it still won't turn, no click or anything, bridge the two big terminals of the starter solenoid with a screwdriver and see if the starter will turn the bike over. Make tripley sure the screwdriver doesn't touch the frame. If the engine turns over, the solenoid is bad. If not, the starter is bad, the ground wire to the frame is bad or the battery is a dud.

[Anonymous]

engine not locked up. all grounds are good. starter button connections good. jumped main contacts on starter relay and bike turned over. ????

[dgeorge]

Sounds like the starter silenoid is bad. From previous posts you can go someplace like Lowes and pick up one for a lawn mower that will work just fine on the bike for a lot less then buying the original part from Suzuki.

[Anonymous]

Are you holding in the clutch when you try to start it?

[Anonymous]

OK..... I really feel stupid now I just makes a world of difference if that clutch is held in.

Thanks to all of you who helped with this, if nothing else I know all the wireing is good

[Anonymous]

I don't think that there is one of us out here that hasn't forgotten the clutch interlock or the kill switch at least once. :roll: :roll:

[KEITH KRAUSE]

I don't think that there is one of us out here that hasn't forgotten the clutch interlock or the kill switch at least once. :roll: :roll:

And if the bike is "new" to you, you may not even know about that requirement. Some older bikes will not start or won't go into gear with the sidestand down. Some cars will not start unless you press the brake pedal.
This stuff can take awhile to figure out. Glad this had a happy ending.

[satchmo]

Wow that's a new one to me.

I just pop mine in neutral and fire up the button. I guess the older beasts aren't as fancy.

Good thing it worked, and thanks for the lesson. Don't feel stupid, someone else (me) learned from your mistake.

Satch

[saaz]

Always treat any bike with 4 valves per cylinder or more with suspision...

[MichaelHoward]

Whoo-Hoo!! Glad you got it.