Can't get my nut off

[Diamondj]

Hap - Have you tried extending the breaker bar to increase the effort on the nut? I use an old GM bumper jack slid over the end of the breaker bar for tough fasteners. You could also use a steel tube fence post to increase the effort on the breaker bar. Of course you could break the crank this way or at least crack your socket ("why yes the Craftsman sales rep has started to look at me funny every time I make them replace a socket, why do you ask?") so be careful. Let us know how you solve this one in case we ever have "nut" issues.....

Jim

[Hap Call]

Hap

Don's suggestion should work.

The inner hub is splined to the transmission input shaft. Put the trans in 5th gear and use a pipe wrench (the Brake) on an old sprocket to keep the output shaft from turning.

The impact wrench should get it loose, just make sure to take as much slack out of the gear stack as possible.

You and Don are right...I was looking at it wrong . I will try that...

Hap

[focus frenzy]

Did you put it in gear and step on the brake? Get a 1/2" Impact on that sucker!

There is a Suzuki tool (09920-53710, clutch holder which is superceded to 09920-53740) but that costs a mere $164.26 at Ron Ayers! In the past I?ve been able to lever the center clutch hub so that I could tighten or loosen the nut?now it?s stuck like white on rice!

When using an impact you need at least a little inertia for the parts to keep it from spinning to allow the impact to break the nut...but there is very little there in just the shaft and the aluminum center clutch hub!

Hap

$164.26!!!!!!! they already know what they can do with that!!!!!!!!
for any one interested all you need is a old steel driven plate, and about a 4' foot piece of 1/2" cold rolled steel rod.
you take the rod and fold it in half, bend the ends to form a "Y" with the very ends bent over at a 90 degree angle so they can be welded to the driven plate.
you end up with a good hub holder for a fraction of the price of the factory one.

[Anonymous]

Hap I did have the same difficulty removing the nut from my 1100. I used my 250lb torque bar and it would not budge, I also use my air impact gun and it too did not work. I had to cut it off. although i used air tools you can try any cutting tool. Here in Canada they dont suplly a nut splitter big enough to use on the bike, but use andy rotery tool with a metal cutting bit.ie: a drill or dremil fitted with a small disc.
Dont cut all the way to the treaded shaft instead cut to within 3-4mm and finish removing it with a sharp chisl.
Good Luck!
Regards, Archie

[Hap Call]

Hap

Don's suggestion should work.

The inner hub is splined to the transmission input shaft. Put the trans in 5th gear and use a pipe wrench (the Brake) on an old sprocket to keep the output shaft from turning.

The impact wrench should get it loose, just make sure to take as much slack out of the gear stack as possible.

You and Don are right...I was looking at it wrong . I will try that...

Hap

Didn't work...Icold not get enough torque to break it loose...almost rounded the nut off on the output shaft! I am going to take it to a friend's place...he has an impact.

Tried the Dremel...the nut is on of the aftermarket tooled steel and is hard as a...well it's just plain hard. Completely wore out two grinding stones...any more suggestions would be great.

BTW, I tried the nail polish remover...no dice.

Hap

[Hoomgar]

This one is giving you a run for your money. I am sorry to hear you burnt up two discs. See if you can buy a tougher disk Hap, they make them. You can get them tough enough to grind through almost anything. The only reason I am saying this again is because I am afraid that with the amount of torque it sounds like your going to have to put on that thing to break it loose you may end up twisting the shaft. I have also seen threads torn off when in extreme conditions like this. It would be so much better if there was a way to cut that darn thing off.

I hope it breaks free for you with some heat and an impact driver/wrench. Use lots of break-free on it before and after you heat it up.

I am usually very good at removing impossible nuts like this, I wish I was there to help you out.

[first timer]

try the fiberglass reinforced style of dremel cutting tool. they last alot long.


ryan

[Hap Call]

try the fiberglass reinforced style of dremel cutting tool. they last alot long.


ryan

Ryan, is it a circular blade of a cutting stone?

Hap

[Hap Call]

Okay, I finally got it off! It took a cutting torch (to heat the nut) and a half-inch impact, but the nut is off!!!

SWEET!!!!

Hap

[Don Lobacz]

Not as sweet as your picture.

[shaftzuki]

Hap - I'm sorry you've had so much trouble with that nut!! I guess we should have tried to split the cases while you were here!! That'll teach you ... 8)

Glad you finally got it off - how does the inside look???? 8O

[Hap Call]

Hap - I'm sorry you've had so much trouble with that nut!! I guess we should have tried to split the cases while you were here!! That'll teach you ... 8)

Glad you finally got it off - how does the inside look???? 8O

Mark, I'm tellin' ya, there's no way we could have gotten it off with regular hand tools 8O :? ! But the clutch basket is VERY nice (heavy duty springs, backing plate, and welded up nicely) . I haven't completely split the case yet because when I got back home after getting the nut off I had to cook dinner. I will get a better look tomorrow...

So far, except for the over torqued nut, it is a dream!

Lindsey cannot stop saying how HOT Jason was....I must have listen to Burgandy Road 40 times on the way home!!!

Hap

[argonsagas]

There would have been another shot with the Dremel, Hap.

The fibre discs should work on most steels, but they tend to grab and shatter with any flexing.

Works better if you use a diamond disc. I have used these quite effectively under a trailer and a couple of tight spots where using a hammer and chisel would have taken a year or two. Surprisingly, the diamond discs are not expensive.

[shaftzuki]

Hap - I'm sorry you've had so much trouble with that nut!! I guess we should have tried to split the cases while you were here!! That'll teach you ... 8)

Glad you finally got it off - how does the inside look???? 8O

Mark, I'm tellin' ya, there's no way we could have gotten it off with regular hand tools 8O :? ! But the clutch basket is VERY nice (heavy duty springs, backing plate, and welded up nicely) . I haven't completely split the case yet because when I got back home after getting the nut off I had to cook dinner. I will get a better look tomorrow...

So far, except for the over torqued nut, it is a dream!

Lindsey cannot stop saying how HOT Jason was....I must have listen to Burgandy Road 40 times on the way home!!!

Hap

I probably shouldn't tell you this, but I do own an air compressor and a really nice impact 8O

I'm glad you and the girls had a good time, I know Jason was plum warn out the next day ... we had a really great time - will have to do it again (when I run across that turbo unit you need for the motor) 8)

[Anonymous]

Okay, I finally got it off! It took a cutting torch (to heat the nut) and a half-inch impact, but the nut is off!!!

SWEET!!!!

Hap