Phillip head screws

[Anonymous]

them phillip head screws to hold on the cover are crap , i have reused them enough and this is the last time, i am stuck with all of them off except the one side has 3 i cant get out i tryed hammering flat bits into the slots and it work nicely the past couple times and a few screws but these are now round i will never use them again going to get allen screws any ideas how to get them out?

[kent]

In the past I have taken a drill bit roughly the diameter of the screw, and drilled into the center of the phillips head, popped the head off of the screw, then when you remove the case piece there is enough screw to remove by pliars

[Poot]

use an Impact driver.

[Anonymous]

Pop over to the Product Reviews part of this forum and read the posting titled:

"The perfect tool for removing stuck,stripped screws"

Good luck...

...Ross

[Jethro]

You have one of these, right?

http://www.denniskirk.com/jsp/product_catalog/Product.jsp?skuId=2808&store=Main&productId=p2808&catId=418&leafCatId=41809

[Jackrp]

Re: Phillip head screws

them phillip head screws to hold on the cover are crap , i have reused them enough and this is the last time, i am stuck with all of them off except the one side has 3 i cant get out i tryed hammering flat bits into the slots and it work nicely the past couple times and a few screws but these are now round i will never use them again going to get allen screws any ideas how to get them out?

Also before it goes too far valve grinding compound on the driver tip gives some extra grip (with an impact driver)

[Sandy]

Like Kent recommends, I usually just drill the head off the screw and remove the cover Then the shank of the screw can be easy removed. While both good methods, by the time you've mangled the screw head the impact and valve grind compound probably won't do much. Use a bit the same size as the screws thread and make sure you keep it as centered as possible and the head will pop off once you've drilled deep enough. If you end up drilling off center don't drill deeper than the shoulder of the screw or you could damage the cover. Simply remove the drill from the chuck and use the butt end of the bit in the hole you just drilled and you should be able to just pop the head off.

[crag antler]

Pop over to the Product Reviews part of this forum and read the posting titled:

"The perfect tool for removing stuck,stripped screws"
Good luck...

...Ross

Here is the tool I used and posted on the above post. A must have.

[Jethro]

That looks pretty good Doug. Does that go into a tap handle or a drill chuck or what?

[pano]

I just had this problem.

I tried to take off the valvecover endcaps with a normal phillips head screwdriver, 3 wouldn't come out.

Bought an impact driver, I had screwed the heads up bad enough that they still woudn't come out with the impact driver.

I began to drill them out and decided I better buy an easyout screw extractor kit. One came out with the kit but I snapped the heads off the other 2 because my previous drilling weakened them.

They were now flush and one had a broked drill bit inside. I had to get a 2 fluted drill bit to drill out the broken drill bit inside and then had to buy a metric tap kit to retap the hole because i was a touch off center.

To get 3 screws out I bought an impact tool, screw extractor kit, metric tap set and got a 2 fluted drill bit and broke a drill bit.

I bought a small Crafsman extractor kit similar to what Doug posted. If I had used it before drilling the heads I think I would have gotten them all out with no problem.

Those 3 screw cost me about $130

[duaneage]

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Those 3 screw cost me about $130[/quote]

I'd say you really got screwed

[crag antler]

I tried removing screws with the Craftsman tool and found it failed miserably.
Really a first time disappointment of Craftsman quality.
The GRABIT tool has a burnishing tip that you use first then reverse it and remove the screw with the opposite end. I used it in a power drill. Pulled that sucker right out

[pano]

The Craftman set I bought did indeed fail on one of the screws. It would spin out and not grab. I ended up tearing up some threads in one of the holes. Thats where the tap set came in.

I really got screwed is right

[Anonymous]

Phillips Head Screws

The Life Cycle Of Phillips Head Screws That Hold Covers Onto A Japanese Motorcycle Engine;

1st time out - Phillips screwdriver
2nd time out - Phillips bit on ratchet
3rd time out - old Phillips screwdriver, hammer
4th time out - Impact Driver
5th time out - Machine $hop

The lesson here is, replace the f-ers the second or third time you take them out, with stainless, socket-head Allen bolts from Inox or Hel. Or use never-sieze, and replace them the third or fourth time. You are going to have to replace them eventually, so I say replace them the FIRST time you take them out, and save the originals in a baggie for when you restore the bike...

Vince

[Anonymous]

EXactly good advice here people