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Billy Ricks
Originally posted by quakeholio View Post
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lecroy
Originally posted by quakeholio View PostJust another couple of questions about chains on race bikes? How old do the race chains get, like milage or number of races? How clean is the track they are on? Dose the chain on a race bike ever see moisture? How often do they check the chain tention?
I think that a race chain will need moretensile strenght then a o-ring chain, but I think the environment that the race bike chain lives in is nicer then that of most street bikes.
This weekend I think we made 10 passes average on each bike. If we raced every weekend for 6 months, thats 240 passes or about 240 miles when you consider pushing the bikes back. We normally change them once a season but we did just put the third chain on the kids bike this year. All of these bikes run in the 8's. I would guess that the guys running in the 6's change them much more often than us and the guys who race the street bikes (real street bikes, not shoot out bikes) have thier chains for years before they swap them out.
We check the chain tension every run for the most part and adjust them maybe every 20 passes or so. (The clutch is much worse). From what I have seen , its not so much the stretch that causes us to change a chain as that they start to bind. So, we don't change the gears like you would with a street bike every time you change the chain.
You did not ask, but we lube the chains every couple of passes on average.
The strength is going to be a question of how much power you want to plant and how often you plan to change the chain.
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Originally posted by Billyboy View PostI got a cheapo non-o-ring chain, cause I'm broke. I don't think it'll hold up like an o-ring, but I'm not overly concerned. I don't give it time to rust up and I l;ude it every 2nd tank. I'm not going to convert to 530. I like the beefier chain. I'm heavy, and so's my wrist.Currently bikeless
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quakeholio
The one that conviced me to go on to the 530 (quite riding the bike before it happened though) was someone mentioned that the GSXR1000 was running 530 as I recall. The bike puts out more power then most any gs1100.
Interesting note that the chains last longer on the race bikes then chains. I've always figured that the clutches on the racers didn't have an easy life, but I didn't know that was the extent of it.
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lecroy
Originally posted by Jethro View Postsome of the high performance 530 chains are way higher strength than you can ever get a 630 in.
630SHB-Z: The Chain for H-D Top Fuelers
With an unsurpassed 30,000-lb. tensile strengh, the 630SHB-Z is specificaly designed to handle the brutal horsepower of today’s V-twin top fuelers.
Recommended application: V-twin top fuel drag racing
Tensile strength: 30,000 lbs.
Available lengths: cut to order though
"The one that conviced me to go on to the 530 (quite riding the bike before it happened though) was someone mentioned that the GSXR1000 was running 530 as I recall. The bike puts out more power then most any gs1100."
My GSXR1100W I think had 150 HP from the factory and has a 532 chain. I think my GS was 108 HP with the 630 chain. From that I can understand where your coming from. But these were stock low performance engines. Add some pistons and turbo to that old GS with 20 pounds of boost and then add a car tire to the mix and things start to happen. The GS can pull well over 300 HP. Way more than the stock GSXR. And while you can thrash an old GS with a little street tire all day long, a 10" drag slick tends to not be so forgiving on parts.
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Originally posted by lecroy View PostShow me! Find something with over 30000 tensile strength in a 530.
The GS can pull well over 300 HP. Way more than the stock GSXR. And while you can thrash an old GS with a little street tire all day long, a 10" drag slick tends to not be so forgiving on parts.Currently bikeless
'81 GS 1100EX - "Peace, by superior fire power."
'06 FZ1000 - "What we are dealing with here, is a COMPLETE lack of respect for the law."
I ride, therefore I am.... constantly buying new tires.
"Tell me what kind of an accident you are going to have, and I will tell you which helmet to wear." - Harry Hurt
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lecroy
LOL
I am guessing your right and that the majority of the GS's on this site are under 100 HP and would make a good case for the smaller chains. I was just going for the black and white argument.
EK does make some very nice products.
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