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    Braided steel brake lines

    I'm not sure if this has been covered before, but it's worth repeating- changing the brake lines to braided steel makes a huge difference in stopability. My GS650G is an index finger operation when covering the front brake while riding.

    #2
    See you are an Ontario guy, so may I ask which kit you went with and how much? I like the HEL product, with the 2-line front setup, may start shopping for it soon. I picked up a Russell rear brake line kit on Ebay a while ago, but did'nt install it yet.
    Tony.
    '82 GS1100E



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      #3
      Big difference in brake feel. I couldn't believe it.
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      Current Rides: 1980 Suzuki GS1000ET, 2009 Yamaha FZ1, 1983 Honda CB1100F, 2006 H-D Fatboy
      Previous Rides: 1972 Yamaha DS7, 1977 Yamaha RD400D, '79 RD400F Daytona Special, '82 RD350LC, 1980 Suzuki GS1000E (sold that one), 1982 Honda CB900F, 1984 Kawasaki GPZ900R

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        #4
        There's a big difference in braking feel and power. And unlike rubber brake lines which need to be replaced every 2-4 years, steel braided lines are good for the life of the bike.

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          #5
          The price of the Hel set was prob. the most expensive of all, but then it came with stainless fittings, coated braided steel sheath (so it doesn't rub holes in whatever it touches), and all the stainless banjo bolts and copper washers as well. Worth every cent. And now the bike stops before I get to the back end of that truck... :shock:

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            #6
            [QUOTE=tfb;739193]The price of the Hel set was prob. the most expensive of all, but then it came with stainless fittings, coated braided steel sheath (so it doesn't rub holes in whatever it touches), and all the stainless banjo bolts and copper washers as well. Worth every cent. QUOTE]

            Yes, they do look pretty cool. Weirdly enough, last time I priced them (a year ago), it was cheaper to buy them from the U.K., even with the shipping factored in....not sure if that has changed since.
            BTW tfb, I had sent you a PM re. the carbs mod on your site...not sure if you got it?
            Tony.
            '82 GS1100E



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              #7
              Tony,

              Apologies re. my slow reply for the PM... ... but I have now replied!

              Cheers,
              Mike.

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                #8
                You can configure your own lines on the Spiegler web site. The next day they'll contact you with a quite reasonable price.

                Spiegler Performance Parts was founded on the concept of providing motorcycle enthusiasts custom motorcycle accessories and performance parts via inno


                This is very handy if you've changed your handlebars like most sensible riders. If you decide to order, they normally make up your lines and ship them out the next business day.
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                  #9
                  Are you not able to buy them locally?

                  I always get mine through my local wrench. He will whip them up in a few minutes and his cost is maybe 75% of on line stores.

                  Just wondering.

                  Cheers all,
                  Spyug

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                    #10
                    It's very easy to make your own lines, and cheaper than purchasing pre made. Link below is a thread I posted about this topic a while ago. http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...ighlight=video
                    Ed

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                      #11
                      Believe me, I would have had no hesitations about making my own brake lines up... except that there was no crew who would sell me the various individual items of hardware required. ](*,)

                      If anyone had the gear here in Perth, they would only make up the lines to my specification, and none of them were going to be as well-spec'd as the 'Hel' lines available through an eBay store.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Nessism View Post
                        It's very easy to make your own lines, and cheaper than purchasing pre made. Link below is a thread I posted about this topic a while ago. http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...ighlight=video

                        I'll be going this route in the new year, at least on the front if not back as well.

                        Ed - will pick your brains when I come over for synch! - Cheers

                        Dan
                        1980 GS1000G - Sold
                        1978 GS1000E - Finished!
                        1980 GS550E - Fixed & given to a friend
                        1983 GS750ES Special - Sold
                        2009 KLR 650 - Sold - gone to TX!
                        1982 GS1100G - Rebuilt and finished. - Sold
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Nessism View Post
                          It's very easy to make your own lines, and cheaper than purchasing pre made. Link below is a thread I posted about this topic a while ago. http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...ighlight=video
                          I'd much rather have the crimped connections, personally. Nothing's going to come loose.

                          That said, I do have a set of the bolted-together lines on my GS850 that a local shoppe made up for me, and they've worked fine for years. However, I only had them made there because the skeevy SOB I talked to led me to believe that they had the special machine to make the crimped lines. The "special machine" turned out to be a cutting wheel and some mope with two wrenches... grumble mutter rassa frassa... Probably should have told them to cram it, but I wanted to ride...

                          I have a Speigler line on my VX800 (single rotor), and it's much nicer and cleaner looking, and I have a bit more confidence in it.
                          1983 GS850G, Cosmos Blue.
                          2005 KLR685, Aztec Pink - Turd II.3, the ReReReTurdening
                          2015 Yamaha FJ-09, Magma Red Power Corrupts...
                          Eat more venison.

                          Please provide details. The GSR Hive Mind is nearly omniscient, but not yet clairvoyant.

                          Celeriter equita, converteque saepe.

                          SUPPORT THIS SITE! DONATE TODAY!

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                            #14
                            I've seen a crimped line fail in hydraulic applications plenty of time.... Mind you that's what my dad's company did at the time.... onsite replacement.

                            They were braided (at least once). Probably had more pressure than a front brake line going through them though!

                            Dan
                            1980 GS1000G - Sold
                            1978 GS1000E - Finished!
                            1980 GS550E - Fixed & given to a friend
                            1983 GS750ES Special - Sold
                            2009 KLR 650 - Sold - gone to TX!
                            1982 GS1100G - Rebuilt and finished. - Sold
                            2009 TE610 - Dual Sporting around dreaming of Dakar..... - FOR SALE!

                            www.parasiticsanalytics.com

                            TWINPOT BRAKE UPGRADE LINKY: http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...e-on-78-Skunk/

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                              #15
                              I once had a crimped line made by a local shop blow apart on a car I built. I always test new brake lines now before I leave the driveway.

                              Anyway, it was caused by improperly crimping the end.

                              I also always inspect the crimp now - this one was obviously defective.

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