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    #16
    Does this help :-D

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      #17
      With the 1166, bigger valves, ported head and 340 cams you might need a 160 mikuni size mains \\/ but that all depends on what type of exhaust and air filter your running.

      I'm with Ray....... at least a 140 mikuni jets to start.

      Also try bumping your timing up to 36 degress for a few more ponies.

      Give that a try and let us know

      Good Luck
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        #18
        Thanks guys
        Currently I'm running Mikuni 135 mains 50 pilots. I tried the 160 DJ pilot air jet but it wouldn't even idle so back to the 125s.
        Pulls great. Still smoking at startup so I'm going to pull the cylinders and check ring gap and the oil ring.
        1983 GS 1100E w/ 1230 kit, .340 lift Web Cams, Ape heavy duty valve springs, 83 1100 head with 1.5mm oversized SS intake valves, 1150 crank, Vance and Hines 1150 SuperHub, Star Racing high volume oil pump gears, 36mm carebs Dynojet stage 3 jet kit, Posplayr's SSPB, Progressive rear shocks and fork springs, Dyna 2000, Dynatek green coils and Vance & Hines 4-1 exhaust.
        1985 GS1150ES stock with 85 Red E bodywork.

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          #19
          If ya need help Bill let me know.

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            #20
            Originally posted by chef1366 View Post
            Thanks guys
            Currently I'm running Mikuni 135 mains 50 pilots. I tried the 160 DJ pilot air jet but it wouldn't even idle so back to the 125s.
            Pulls great. Still smoking at startup so I'm going to pull the cylinders and check ring gap and the oil ring.
            Bill, how many miles on it now since you put it back together? I wouldn't be so quick to pull it apart because if it is rich still it could be washing the cylinders & slowing down the ring seal process. Do a compression test & a leakdown test before pulling it apart. Ray.

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              #21
              We never disturbed the cylinder and the walls still had a good hone on them.

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                #22
                Originally posted by mac1170 View Post
                gday bill, i run a gsx11et, 1135 yosh pistons,98cfm flowed head,1mm bigger inlets,black motor cams,36mmcvs, later model standard airbox with kn filter,after much riding on road,track and dyno runs,we found the best combination of jetting was,please remember this is an aussie specs bike, we first ran the standard 36mm jets, and found that this ran the bike to rich all thru the range,we then put the 34mm, jets in the 36mm carbs and straight away it ran cleaner, in the end the combination was 120mikuni mains, standard 36mm pilots from memory 47.5mm, standard 36mm carb airjets 160s, 2.5 turns on the mixture screws, needle set in the middle notch, piont to note when you screw in the mixture screws dont do them down tight, as you can break the tips off and they stey stuck in the hole, in my humble opinion forget dyna jets they can confuse the issue, this bike runs 110hp.din. and 84ft.pds. on the dyno hope this helps, regards
                Hi there mac1170 - nice selection of rides (I assume you have a McIntosh also?)!
                A question or two for you - I tried running the standard airbox (with K&N filter) on my old GSX11 - similar specs to yours, but WAY non-standard cams (much more lift and duration than some Yoshi Stage II's I had been running), and 33mm Keihin CR specials - but found that the airbox was 'choking' the outer 2 carbs, causing them to run rich - REALLY rich - so I ended up going back to the K&N pods instead, which were giving me a much more even airflow (and jetting) across all carbs...
                You didn't find any problems like this? Or does the later model airbox solve the problem?
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                  #23
                  Interesting fact about Dynojet versus Mikuni jets.
                  .9375 is the magic number.

                  Dynojet to Mikuni/ Dj 138x.9375=129.375 so a DJ 138 is close to a 130 mikuni

                  Mikuni to Dynojet/ Mikuni 130 divided by .9375 = 138.666 A mikuni 130 is close to a 138 dyno. This works throughout all ranges.
                  1983 GS 1100E w/ 1230 kit, .340 lift Web Cams, Ape heavy duty valve springs, 83 1100 head with 1.5mm oversized SS intake valves, 1150 crank, Vance and Hines 1150 SuperHub, Star Racing high volume oil pump gears, 36mm carebs Dynojet stage 3 jet kit, Posplayr's SSPB, Progressive rear shocks and fork springs, Dyna 2000, Dynatek green coils and Vance & Hines 4-1 exhaust.
                  1985 GS1150ES stock with 85 Red E bodywork.

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                    #24
                    I think I found the magic combo.
                    132.5 Mikuni mains
                    50 Mikuni pilot (could stand to go to 52.5) Idles rough under 1500 rpm
                    3 to 3.5 turns out on the Idle mixture screw.
                    DJ needle bottom notch and shimmed a half.

                    I was bouncing the front end around at about 7000 rpms in a residential area and I think I scared the locals. :-D
                    1983 GS 1100E w/ 1230 kit, .340 lift Web Cams, Ape heavy duty valve springs, 83 1100 head with 1.5mm oversized SS intake valves, 1150 crank, Vance and Hines 1150 SuperHub, Star Racing high volume oil pump gears, 36mm carebs Dynojet stage 3 jet kit, Posplayr's SSPB, Progressive rear shocks and fork springs, Dyna 2000, Dynatek green coils and Vance & Hines 4-1 exhaust.
                    1985 GS1150ES stock with 85 Red E bodywork.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Steveb64 View Post
                      Hi there mac1170 - nice selection of rides (I assume you have a McIntosh also?)!
                      A question or two for you - I tried running the standard airbox (with K&N filter) on my old GSX11 - similar specs to yours, but WAY non-standard cams (much more lift and duration than some Yoshi Stage II's I had been running), and 33mm Keihin CR specials - but found that the airbox was 'choking' the outer 2 carbs, causing them to run rich - REALLY rich - so I ended up going back to the K&N pods instead, which were giving me a much more even airflow (and jetting) across all carbs...
                      You didn't find any problems like this? Or does the later model airbox solve the problem?
                      gday mate, ran the airbox with 36mmcvs of the 1150 model, not slide carbs, the later boxes have a rubber velocity stack with a duel throat, where the old one just used to be a round hole, i know on the faired version of the 1150 model suzuki actually ran 1 size larger jets on the middle two carbs, but not as rich as you reckon you were running, on the br2 mac, i run 36mm radial flatslides [mikunis], with velocity stacks, no airbox or pods, as the inside of the bodywork creates a large type of plenum chamber for the carbs to draw from, great induction sound, but keep away from dirt roads, regards.

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                        #26
                        The 50 pilot jet is rich and so is the 47.5. Going to try the stock 45 and see what happens.
                        1983 GS 1100E w/ 1230 kit, .340 lift Web Cams, Ape heavy duty valve springs, 83 1100 head with 1.5mm oversized SS intake valves, 1150 crank, Vance and Hines 1150 SuperHub, Star Racing high volume oil pump gears, 36mm carebs Dynojet stage 3 jet kit, Posplayr's SSPB, Progressive rear shocks and fork springs, Dyna 2000, Dynatek green coils and Vance & Hines 4-1 exhaust.
                        1985 GS1150ES stock with 85 Red E bodywork.

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                          #27
                          gday chef, youre needle position sounds very rich also, you may find dropping the needle back down the hole may also seem to lean out the midrange, regards.

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                            #28
                            Needle is perfect. A half a notch leaner and it was pinging on the needle circuit. It pulls the front tire right off the ground.
                            1983 GS 1100E w/ 1230 kit, .340 lift Web Cams, Ape heavy duty valve springs, 83 1100 head with 1.5mm oversized SS intake valves, 1150 crank, Vance and Hines 1150 SuperHub, Star Racing high volume oil pump gears, 36mm carebs Dynojet stage 3 jet kit, Posplayr's SSPB, Progressive rear shocks and fork springs, Dyna 2000, Dynatek green coils and Vance & Hines 4-1 exhaust.
                            1985 GS1150ES stock with 85 Red E bodywork.

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                              #29
                              This forum contains old posts which may have information which may be useful. It is a closed forum in that you can not post here any longer. Please post your questions in the other technical forums.
                              1983 GS 1100E w/ 1230 kit, .340 lift Web Cams, Ape heavy duty valve springs, 83 1100 head with 1.5mm oversized SS intake valves, 1150 crank, Vance and Hines 1150 SuperHub, Star Racing high volume oil pump gears, 36mm carebs Dynojet stage 3 jet kit, Posplayr's SSPB, Progressive rear shocks and fork springs, Dyna 2000, Dynatek green coils and Vance & Hines 4-1 exhaust.
                              1985 GS1150ES stock with 85 Red E bodywork.

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