seat hight frustrations.

[marz]

as many know i have a g.s.1984 750 e . i love this bike . its fun its fast(for its age and i feel fairly safe on it.
however the seat hight has really started to bite me .. in the hips. i am gonna reg for classic (wich means i cant alter it! ) but i need more hight. my hips get to the point of cramp and if its a longish ride it becomes very painfull. and i ecpect dangeouse.. andy ideas..i expect that after i have reg i can change it.modify the seat so i would appreciate any ideas...thanx

[TheCafeKid]

Find a second seat for that model on fleabay and alter it how you wish for your rides. Then, when you register it, you can put the original back on for the time being, or if you ever sell it, you can tout it as all original as you have the seat stowed away someplace safe.

[marz]

sounds like a reasonable idea

however i have yet to find one. yet i think the idea is to stuff the seat? is that it?

[TheCafeKid]

Well that depends. Are you cramping because you are a tall person, and the seat is too low, pushing your legs up past your hip line, or are you cramping because you are "vertically challenged" and you are having to stretch to reach the ground/pegs?

[marz]

i am

tallish my thoughts are that the seat is too low. and causes cramp in the hips,. with the gear on its worse.in the summer cause its warmer its not so bad but in the cold its worse .. im about 6 ft..i was thinking foot pegs . but then ground clearence ect would be compromized..i cant think of how to stuff the seat to make it look reasonable . i supose ill have to get a seat and just go ahead and do it...

[salty_monk]

I have a seat cover coming up for Sale soon that adds a couple of inches to the height & seems pretty comfy....

It's in pretty immaculate shape.



Reason I'm switching it out is I don't want the added height, It's tall enough standover for me as stock.

Not sure what the foam is like under there & if I can give you that as well, when I take it apart I can let you know.

Dan

[marz]

sorry

i forgot to add its an 84 year that wont fit..thanx though
for all replies so far..

[bwringer]

I had sort of the same problem with my GS850 because the original seat foam was worn out. After a few miles, the seat foam would pack down and my knees would start to bother me because I was sitting about three inches lower.

The problem was solved by adding a seat foam insert made from a slab of Sargent's Supercell foam, thusly:



Rough shaping was done with an electric knife, and fine shaping with a course sanding block. After cutting and removing a chunk of the original foam, the insert was glued in with spray adhesive for upholstery. Pretty easy, really.

There's a rectangular insert in the GS850 seat (don't know about yours) made from a different foam than the rest of the seat. I also replaced this with Supercell.

Problem solved -- it's now all-day comfy. I don't think about my butt at all most days, which is a good thing.

I replaced the cover with a different one in the stock shape, but you could certainly put your original cover back on and no one would ever be the wiser, not even nosy gubmint inspectors.

[marz]

thanx

yes thanx for that! i will look for a new seat like cafe says and then get that supercell stuff.. ill do a search for it after i write this ..( ill get the name right)
thanx fer that ..

[bwringer]

Here's the info on the supercell stuff:

http://www.sargentcycle.com/csroadcom.htm#Super%20Cell

You have to call Sargent (in Florida) to order it. They don't sell it through their web site, but they're happy to sell it over the phone. I think it cost about $40 - $45 for the 16 inch square of 1-1/2 inch thick foam that I used, plus a few more bucks for UPS shipping. I thought it was strange that they put it in a huge box with lots of foam "peanuts". Um... it's a slab of FOAM. Don't think it's going to break...

Anyway, I don't know what kind of machinations might be needed to get a slab of foam across the border, or if you can find a local equivalent.

It's very heavy, dense stuff, almost rubbery feeling. The closest thing I can think of would be one of those foam knee pads used for gardening.

[lurch12_2000]

Here's the info on the supercell stuff:

http://www.sargentcycle.com/csroadcom.htm#Super%20Cell

You have to call Sargent (in Florida) to order it. They don't sell it through their web site, but they're happy to sell it over the phone. I think it cost about $40 - $45 for the 16 inch square of 1-1/2 inch thick foam that I used, plus a few more bucks for UPS shipping. I thought it was strange that they put it in a huge box with lots of foam "peanuts". Um... it's a slab of FOAM. Don't think it's going to break...

Anyway, I don't know what kind of machinations might be needed to get a slab of foam across the border, or if you can find a local equivalent.

It's very heavy, dense stuff, almost rubbery feeling. The closest thing I can think of would be one of those foam knee pads used for gardening.

Is this stuff the same as the memory foam used in the Temperpedic foam mattresses? If it is, Sam's club sells the pillows made of this foam for under $30. Maybe you could cut and shape what you need from that.

[marz]

thats a good idea too .

i havent had a chance to goto the local foam shop to see if theres any thing closer.. thanx

[bwringer]

Is this stuff the same as the memory foam used in the Temperpedic foam mattresses? If it is, Sam's club sells the pillows made of this foam for under $30. Maybe you could cut and shape what you need from that.

No, it's MUCH more dense than memory foam or anything you find in an upholstery shop.

Maybe another analogy... imagine stacking up foam mouse pads about an inch and a half thick. It's a little less dense than that. If you stand on a piece of it with both feet, your feet only sink in a quarter inch or so.

However, Supercell foam has a "slow memory" property -- over a bit of time, maybe five or ten minutes, it molds itself perfectly to your, um, seating area. There are some ski boots with a special foam lining that does much the same.

When I first sit down, my bike's seat feels hard, almost wooden, especially if it's cold. I might even slide around a little for the first couple of blocks.

But after a few minutes, it molds itself to fit and becomes supremely comfortable. This also serves to hold me in place a bit better, and I stop sliding around. Of course, if I change positions it remolds quickly.

But you don't sink down into it, either, and it never feels squishy or wiggly like a gel pad or regular memory foam -- the remolding process only affects maybe the first quarter inch or so.

[Zooks]

You could always get yourself a set of forward pegs so you can stretch your legs out on long rides. Or you could go the whole hog and move the controls forward as well (like on a HD or similar 'chopper').

I can't believe I recommended that, I feel so dirty now. I need to go and take a shower.

(CafeKid and Beergood etc may never speak to me again).

[marz]

umm

no no no i like to ride .. not slouch about on it .. i like to be alert not asleep..
but thanx it was a idea ..