Breather hose with pods?

[andrewclaycomb]

hmm... I've just let my breather hose fall down between #2 and #3 pod, I wonder if lifting it up and allowing it to breath more might make something run differently. It's running great now.

[doctorgonzo]

hmm... I've just let my breather hose fall down between #2 and #3 pod, I wonder if lifting it up and allowing it to breath more might make something run differently. It's running great now.

I only routed mine to the back of the bike because of the smoke. Sitting there with the carbs when you sit still it's wafting right up in your nose.

[Tarbash 27]

Well I would not want to rerout it back ino the engine because it fills my catch can bottle with white oil, oil and condensation mix I guess. I had a 6" hose and a breather that hung above the carbs. It would stink from the fumes and would seap or at least mositen up my nice 29mm's with oil. Perhaps rout it all the way to the back of the seat cowling so it breathes behind the license plate? Or am I asking for trouble with oil seeping on the tire.

I would like a nice small aluminum catch can, but all I can find are cans too big and are made for a car. I know my bike might have a bit more blowby than you guys because it has about 52,000 miles on it and what looks an original motor. I plan on a full rebuild next winter.

Just trying to get ideas.

[Tarbash 27]

Something like this would be cool but look at the price

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Riva-Racing-Sea-Doo-Oil-Catch-Can-RXP-RXT-GTX_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ56422QQihZ022QQitemZ350034978798QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

[renobruce]

Mine's run back to a plastic paint can lid strapped to the frame, with a K&N crankcase filter on it. I stoled the idea from Keith. :-D

[KEITH KRAUSE]

Ha! You beat me to it Bruce. I'm so dang slow trying to post a pic. I finally get it sent and you steal my thunder! Might as well describe it anyway.
Mines from a dust cover from my Progressive shocks. Works pretty good but I made one change since this pic. I found that if I rode really hard and the combination of forgetting about it for too long, I'd get some seapage to spill out.
Now I just fold up a small napkin and lay it on the bottom. No more splashing since. It basically sucks up any moisture and dries out on its own but I change it once in awhile anyway.
I used some very thick walled tubing for the hose so it doesn't sag much. I wanted to avoid the tubing having a low spot/dip and moisture collecting/clogging the tube and compromising good venting.

[Tarbash 27]

Good Idea, But I have all my electrics under the seat and no room for that setup. You guys dont have any spills on hard leans into turns?

[renobruce]

Good Idea, But I have all my electrics under the seat and no room for that setup. You guys dont have any spills on hard leans into turns?

I hardly get anything in the catch cup. It's just a bit of sludge on the bottom of the cup, which I periodically wipe out. If yours were to fill up enough to spill out, you have other issues.

[renobruce]

Ha! You beat me to it Bruce. I'm so dang slow trying to post a pic. I finally get it sent and you steal my thunder!

Sorry, Keith!

[rapidray]

Well I would not want to rerout it back ino the engine because it fills my catch can bottle with white oil, oil and condensation mix I guess. I had a 6" hose and a breather that hung above the carbs. It would stink from the fumes and would seap or at least mositen up my nice 29mm's with oil. Perhaps rout it all the way to the back of the seat cowling so it breathes behind the license plate? Or am I asking for trouble with oil seeping on the tire.

I would like a nice small aluminum catch can, but all I can find are cans too big and are made for a car. I know my bike might have a bit more blowby than you guys because it has about 52,000 miles on it and what looks an original motor. I plan on a full rebuild next winter.

Just trying to get ideas.

If it is routed so it goes back into the motor you won't get the condensation you get with the system open. Pingle sells a VERY nice aluminum one with 2 nipples on it AND a drain built into it! Ray.

[posplayr]

Home Made solutions #2

Well I just saw Ray's post about the pingle unit (probably +$100 buckeroos) but thought I would post what I have doing for the last hour after reading this thread.


1.) Figured a nice aluminum bottle would work. I found my Harbor freight aerosol 16 oz sprayer but no way to fit it. Went to goggle and found standard size 4 oz units. Here is an example:

http://www.hangercity.com/alspbo4oz.html

Size: 6"tall x 1 3/4"diameter including the sprayer.

2.) I figured that the K&N filter should be mounted vertically above a bottle so that the oil from the breather hose is fighting gravity to go up and out. The oil should go to the bottom of a bottle. No need for additional ventilation other than provided by the filter.

3.) Mount the filter to the top of the bottle and screw a nipple fitting into the side of the bottle (facing down a little) for the breather hose. See mock up pictures below.










The total height depending on the upper fitting is probably less than 7 inches. I'm guessing based on scaling the image 6.5". In staging a spray can of similar dimensions on my GS750, it looks like this kind of arrangement might just sit right on the rear fender cross brace behind and to the right of the battery when the rear air box is out. Worst come to worst the filter could be mounted at 90 degrees and the breather hose mounted so it was not directed at the filter would easily fit.

Anyway, it doesn't feed back to the engine but might provide for a clean solution that is mostly metal. And it would seem like it would be very hard for any oil to get out of this bottle unless it tipped over or you had 40 psi coming out the breather hose



Ill give it a try after ordering a couple of these little bottles.

Posplayr

[tkent02]

I like the idea, on mine I will add a small hose coming out from the bottom of the bottle routed to drip the oil on the chain.

[posplayr]

Let me know how that works out

Good Idea on the chain luber.

The next issue would be how to mount the bottle securely. A vertical flat bar from the fender cross member to the horizontal frame member would provide a place to (ugh) hose clamp the bottle. (I hate using hose clamps on anything other than hoses). Anyway a couple of large hose clamps would be very secure. I'll look for some other type of snap in holder.

Posplayr

[KEITH KRAUSE]

Good Idea, But I have all my electrics under the seat and no room for that setup. You guys dont have any spills on hard leans into turns?

I can't imagine not having space. There aren't that many electrics.
No spills around turns. There isn't that much fluid in there, at least in my case. Since I put the small napkin in it sucks up any that comes out.

[Steve]

[QUOTE=Tarbash 27;790. You guys dont have any spills on hard leans into turns?[/QUOTE]

If you have problems with spills on hard leans, you are not doing the turns correctly. :shock:

Because of the inherent need for the motorcycle to remain balanced, all forces will be straight down, but that 'down' will be relevant to the point of support. That means that all forces will go straight to the point where the tires contact the road. Have you ever noticed that you don't get thrown from side-to-side, like you do in a car? You only get pressed harder into the seat. The only time these forces change is when accelerating or braking, and you move front-to-back, but never side-to-side.

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