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    Explanation needed on front disc rotation please?

    On the modern disc brake the disc is mounted to the wheel hub and then this inner part of the disc is attached to the out part of the disc with round type fastener that it seems allows some movement of the disc within the pad area when the brakes are applied. These discs have a direction of rotation marked on them. Yet the left and right discs look identical. Check out the diagram below if my explanation is a bit vague.

    Why is the directional arrow on the discs and why cant they be mounted on the opposite side and rotate in a different direction.

    The reason for this question to fill you all in is that I have found a disc that is ideal for my purposes in fitting it to the front of my GS550 but this disc comes off a single disc bike and to do a dual disc setup I would end up with one of these discs rotating the wrong way.

    Is this a real issue? How would it affect braking? Would there be some movement or play in the disc that would be mounted the wrong way?

    Hope someone can give me a technical explanation of this?

    #2
    My guess is that usually that direction marking is just because of drilling pattern on the disk. If the pattern isn't symmetrical then the patterns will face different directions if you use two same hand disks. I doubt that will have any effect on braking.
    Arttu
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      #3
      Originally posted by ArttuH View Post
      My guess is that usually that direction marking is just because of drilling pattern on the disk. If the pattern isn't symmetrical then the patterns will face different directions if you use two same hand disks. I doubt that will have any effect on braking.
      Thanks ArttuH. That sounds reasonable to me too. We'll see what others offer up as well and get a consensus of opinion. I can't see any difference in mechanical construction and what you say makes sense.

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        #4
        I've wondered the same thing, I'm sure it can't really be anything to do with construction unless it's in the rivets where the spider joins the braking surface.....
        1980 GS1000G - Sold
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          #5
          there is no mechanical difference in a left or right handed disc, just the hole pattern. when they drill a disc it is done in a way to give optimum disc cooling and minimum pad wear. you can easily run a left disc on the right with no ill effects. i do!
          1978 GS1085.

          Just remember, an opinion without 3.14 is just an onion!

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            #6
            Thanks Guys. That is a real relief to me. Now that I have a disc with the correct overall diameter and correct offset I should be able to start looking for them on EBAY and I can go for the twin disc setup without having to make up a collar, spacer to make things line up.
            Cheers.

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              #7
              Hi Don,
              One of my Honda rotors has RF stamped on it but there are no markings on the other one. The rivets appear to be symmetrical and the drillings in the rotor are not directional. So if these rotors are intended to be handed I do not see any reason for it.
              I did get a chance to work on my front brakes on my 550, welded the lower tab for the caliper mounting, all is good, they are structurally finished. I am getting close to riding it with the new brakes.

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                #8
                Thanks Charlie, let me know how it performs (I mean stops) when you can get it on the road. I will be really interested to find out how things work out and if you're happy with the conversion. How about another picture of your front brakes now that you have welded the bottom mounting bracket. Thanks. Don

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                  #9
                  Right heres a quick expaination as i understand it .....

                  discs are the same apart from the drillings which are there to disapate water ! i doubt there would be any problems running a disk on the wrong side if you were to buy 2 new ones, however as they are floating discs any second hand ones will have wear to one side of the bobbins & if that disc was reversed the wear to the other side would very soon make it useless as the disc would quickly be floating too much or to put it in techinical terms.... knackered

                  if you have ever ridden a bike with knackered floating disc bobbings you will understand my concern over this

                  hope that helps

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                    #10
                    Another thought after looking at the pic above, that looks like a 310mm sv650 disc & if thats what you intend using why not use bandit 6 discs same dia & available in left & right hands

                    or if its a 320mm disc bandit 12 or slingshot 1100 (different ofsets)

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by tone View Post
                      Another thought after looking at the pic above, that looks like a 310mm sv650 disc & if thats what you intend using why not use bandit 6 discs same dia & available in left & right hands

                      or if its a 320mm disc bandit 12 or slingshot 1100 (different ofsets)
                      Thanks for your reply. The disc is actually a VT Honda which has six bolt holes where it attaches to the GS front hub. The later Suzuki discs have a five bolt set up and would need quite a bit of work to make them fit. Thanks.

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                        #12
                        If it's the one that I sent him it's a 310mm disc off a Honda CBR900RR 1998 Vintage.

                        Dan
                        1980 GS1000G - Sold
                        1978 GS1000E - Finished!
                        1980 GS550E - Fixed & given to a friend
                        1983 GS750ES Special - Sold
                        2009 KLR 650 - Sold - gone to TX!
                        1982 GS1100G - Rebuilt and finished. - Sold
                        2009 TE610 - Dual Sporting around dreaming of Dakar..... - FOR SALE!

                        www.parasiticsanalytics.com

                        TWINPOT BRAKE UPGRADE LINKY: http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...e-on-78-Skunk/

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                          #13
                          Dan I am planning on using a disc off a Honda Spada VT 250 which is the same design as the CBR disc but with an overall size of 295mm.

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                            #14
                            No idea if we got them here... sure it would work though if offset & PCd are the same.

                            Dan
                            1980 GS1000G - Sold
                            1978 GS1000E - Finished!
                            1980 GS550E - Fixed & given to a friend
                            1983 GS750ES Special - Sold
                            2009 KLR 650 - Sold - gone to TX!
                            1982 GS1100G - Rebuilt and finished. - Sold
                            2009 TE610 - Dual Sporting around dreaming of Dakar..... - FOR SALE!

                            www.parasiticsanalytics.com

                            TWINPOT BRAKE UPGRADE LINKY: http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...e-on-78-Skunk/

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                              #15
                              Hey Dan. What's PCd. I know it will be something simple, but just can't wrack my brain enough to think what it must be.

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