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    What is the biggest cam u can b4 hard face rocker arms come into play 16v 1100

    #2
    Well, they are all hard faced. I had a set refaced once and found them no better than new rockers. If this bike is for every day street use I wouldn't go close to a cam that large. I'm old and its been a long time but .370 sound about right to anyone? Any thing over .345 or so is pushing it on the street. I haven't looked at grind numbers on a GS in years although I raced one(several).

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      #3
      This is a very interesting subject to me. A few guys say you can run cams up to .370 or so with no problem. Thats good news to me. What about the exhaust rocker on mine that has the oil groove in it?
      But, WEB cams say that all of their grinds require hardwelding rockers.
      At $60 US x 8 for hardwelding it doubles the cost. Then there are the 'highly recommended' mods like top end lubers and such. I think they would sell a LOT more cams if it wasnt required by them. Maybe a warranty issue?

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        #4
        With the .370 cams you have spring issues as much as anything. I did run a .355 cam once and found it rather "peaky". I think a lower duration cam with lower lift numbers is a much better street cam without all the side issues. Will it produce HP (with a good head) like a .370 cam. No it won't. What it will do is live longer. One thing I found out the hard way nearly 30 years ago was what works on the drag strip usually doesn't belong on the street if you want to use it.

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          #5
          You can run 370s with street seat pressure ( 42 - 45 lbs) with stock rockers in good condition.

          Welded rockers are way better that the chromed stockers, so if your rockers are damaged, spend the money on the welded rockers rather than buying new oem.

          Jay
          Speed Merchant
          http://www.gszone.biz

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            #6
            Originally posted by Big Jay View Post
            You can run 370s with street seat pressure ( 42 - 45 lbs) with stock rockers in good condition.

            Welded rockers are way better that the chromed stockers, so if your rockers are damaged, spend the money on the welded rockers rather than buying new oem.

            Jay
            Jay, on a every day commuter 10 K a year bike you would recommend that? I guess the original poster here needs to clarify what his intent is.

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              #7
              Correct me if I am wrong but from what i understand the .340 lift WEB cam has about the same duration as stock. So more of an overall increase in power, not just the top end. I have two sets of stock rockers, both intake ones without the oil groove of the exhaust rockers so I planned to use them.
              Last edited by Guest; 03-01-2009, 12:51 AM.

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                #8
                Originally posted by gearhead13 View Post
                Correct me if I am wrong but from what i understand the .340 lift WEB cam has about the same duration as stock. So more of an overall increase in power, not just the top end. I have two sets of stock rockers, both intake ones without the oil groove of the exhaust rockers so I planned to use them.
                If you want to ride you have a good cam. Those rockers will work. Do as Jay said and set your spring pressure in the low 40's. A piston kit of acceptable size would be a big plus with those cams. 36mm carbs. Just a guess around 108-110 lobe center would be a good place to start.

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                  #9
                  The engine in question is in my sig, a 750 with a wiseco k816 kit. Would 36 mm carbs be too big for it? Could i use the dynojet needles etc from my current carbs on them or what?

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                    #10
                    With the .370s you need longer adjustment screws for 1100/1150 rockers
                    1983 GS 1100E w/ 1230 kit, .340 lift Web Cams, Ape heavy duty valve springs, 83 1100 head with 1.5mm oversized SS intake valves, 1150 crank, Vance and Hines 1150 SuperHub, Star Racing high volume oil pump gears, 36mm carebs Dynojet stage 3 jet kit, Posplayr's SSPB, Progressive rear shocks and fork springs, Dyna 2000, Dynatek green coils and Vance & Hines 4-1 exhaust.
                    1985 GS1150ES stock with 85 Red E bodywork.

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                      #11
                      now who makes a cam that keeps the tach drive?

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                        #12
                        V&H cams retain the tach drive.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Don Williams View Post
                          now who makes a cam that keeps the tach drive?

                          I believe all of the EP billets have the tach drive.
                          Speed Merchant
                          http://www.gszone.biz

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                            #14
                            Cam Motion & Web both have GS cams with the tach drive gear. Ray.

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                              #15
                              Is it true that alot of these cams are reground stock cams?
                              1983 GS 1100E w/ 1230 kit, .340 lift Web Cams, Ape heavy duty valve springs, 83 1100 head with 1.5mm oversized SS intake valves, 1150 crank, Vance and Hines 1150 SuperHub, Star Racing high volume oil pump gears, 36mm carebs Dynojet stage 3 jet kit, Posplayr's SSPB, Progressive rear shocks and fork springs, Dyna 2000, Dynatek green coils and Vance & Hines 4-1 exhaust.
                              1985 GS1150ES stock with 85 Red E bodywork.

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