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    Hi,

    I have a GS 1150 / 1327 which I put together two months ago and need to take apart again. It never was run after assembling it, just was bolted together.

    Is it OK to reuse the copper head gasket on it? Has O-ringed block.
    Is there anything horrible which could happen?

    I am not trying to be cheap, but this stuff always takes a while to arrive from APE to Europe...
    Greets
    Flo

    #2
    If the gasket has never been run it will be ok. If it HAS been run, you would need to re-anneal it before use as the heat cycles harden the copper & you would need to soften it again. Elmer Trett once told me he had re-used a gasket at LEAST a dozen times before when money was tight. Ray.
    Last edited by rapidray; 07-06-2009, 10:37 PM. Reason: spelling

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      #3
      Ray I knew Elmer Trett. His nephew was married to my sister. He was from Corbin ky. My sister was married to Michael Trett , whose dad Albert was the older brother of Elmer. Elmer lived in Ga. the last few years of his life. A man truely ahead of his time. Sorry to hi-jack this thread, but wanted to add this info about Elmer...a good man he was and very sharp.

      Terry
      1980 Suzuki GS550E, 1981 Suzuki GS 1100EX all stock, 1983 Suzuki GS 1100EX modified, 1985 GS1150E, 1998 Honda Valkyrie Tourer, 1971 Kawasaki Mach lll 500 H1, 1973 Kawasaki Mach lV 750 H2.

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        #4
        I only met him once but I had talked to him at least 50-60 times before I did. He used to answer questions I had when setting up dragbikes in Hawaii. He was a VERY intelligent man! He welcomed me into his pit like I was family & was telling everyone I was his friend from Hawaii! It felt good to be hanging around a bigshot & getting welcomed like that! Just the man he was! Ray.

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          #5
          Ray, Terry,
          never even hear for Elmer Trett, so looked him up. Thought you guys might enjoy this.




          for everyone else.



          Jim

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            #6
            I saw him set a record at Indy and had him autograph a t-shirt.

            I think it was the next weekend that he did his exhibition run and died.

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              #7
              thanks for the answers. Motor never has been run.
              After recent experiences on the dyno I will widen the ring gap to values Ray recommended before running it... this is why I am tearing it down...

              Flo

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                #8
                Flo, good luck on your project. Please keep us informed as to your progress.

                Terry
                1980 Suzuki GS550E, 1981 Suzuki GS 1100EX all stock, 1983 Suzuki GS 1100EX modified, 1985 GS1150E, 1998 Honda Valkyrie Tourer, 1971 Kawasaki Mach lll 500 H1, 1973 Kawasaki Mach lV 750 H2.

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                  #9
                  my head gasket has been on and off countless times

                  anneal the copper that is the secret to re-use for years. I like the spray copper sealant as well but there are many other choices to keep the oil seepage to a minimum.
                  SUZUKI , There is no substitute

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by trippivot View Post
                    anneal the copper that is the secret ...
                    It's not hard to do. Heat the copper up hot with a plumber's soldering torch, then let it cool naturally, in the air. It's done.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by rkubik View Post
                      It's not hard to do. Heat the copper up hot with a plumber's soldering torch, then let it cool naturally, in the air. It's done.
                      Heating it and then quenching it in water will make even softer.
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                        #12
                        Standard fare in the old Brit world of head gaskets. I bet the one on my Beezer is original and I've had the top off a good few times.
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by headsbikesmopars View Post
                          Ray I knew Elmer Trett. His nephew was married to my sister. He was from Corbin ky. My sister was married to Michael Trett , whose dad Albert was the older brother of Elmer. Elmer lived in Ga. the last few years of his life. A man truely ahead of his time. Sorry to hi-jack this thread, but wanted to add this info about Elmer...a good man he was and very sharp.

                          Terry
                          We were traveling with the Tretts from Ga to Muncie, In for a race. We stopped in Corbin, Ky to visit some of Elmers relatives. I might have met you.

                          Jay
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