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dzane
550 Bore?
Hi All, I am new to the forum. Been riding a 1980 GS550L since 1982 and have put on over 85000 miles. It is still in good condition but needs work and am considering a complete overhaul this off season. Can a 550 be bored to something like 650? Are parts available for this conversion? Thanks for all the great information on this forum! I also have a nearly complete 1981 GS550T for parts if anyone needs bits and pieces.Tags: None
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I was thinking along the same lines…
Originally posted by dzane View PostHi All, I am new to the forum. Been riding a 1980 GS550L since 1982 and have put on over 85000 miles. It is still in good condition but needs work and am considering a complete overhaul this off season. Can a 550 be bored to something like 650?
I would be satisfied with a re-bore for replacement pistons. You can only overbore once because they don't make replacement sized overbore pistons.
There are some performance cams for the GS550 available at webcamshafts.com and for only $407 a set! You can build your GS550 to a stre$$ful high 60 HP level, but then you could just buy a GS650 with an easy 73 HP.
Bill1982 GS1100G- road bike
1990 GSX750F-(1127cc '92 GSXR engine)
1987 Honda CBR600F Hurricane
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TheBigRed
Originally posted by dzane View PostHi All, I am new to the forum. Been riding a 1980 GS550L since 1982 and have put on over 85000 miles. It is still in good condition but needs work and am considering a complete overhaul this off season. Can a 550 be bored to something like 650? Are parts available for this conversion? Thanks for all the great information on this forum! I also have a nearly complete 1981 GS550T for parts if anyone needs bits and pieces.
There are a couple of guys on here that have managed to squeeze a 650 top end onto a 650 bottom end. Quite a bit of work, and I'm not sure it is worth all the work unless you are redoing the engine anyway. I had the thought with my re-build, but didn't have the spare parts handy so stuck with 550.
Amos
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dzane
Thanks guys!
I was only going to proceed if I heard something like: "Oh yeah, I've done it and it is easy and the parts are readily available and ..." I have enjoyed the bike for all these years and I will continue to enjoy it with a restoration this off season and possibly an engine rebuild. Fun little bike with lots of miles left in her. Buffalo Bill could you elaborate a bit on the "I would be satisfied with a re-bore for replacement pistons. You can only overbore once because they don't make replacement sized overbore pistons." statement you made? Thanks in advance.Last edited by Guest; 09-16-2009, 02:21 PM.
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Originally posted by dzane View PostI have enjoyed the bike for all these years and I will continue to enjoy it with a restoration this off season and possibly an engine rebuild.
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TheBigRed
Originally posted by dzane View PostI was only going to proceed if I heard something like: "Oh yeah, I've done it and it is easy and the parts are readily available and ..." I have enjoyed the bike for all these years and I will continue to enjoy it with a restoration this off season and possibly an engine rebuild. Fun little bike with lots of miles left in her. Buffalo Bill could you elaborate a bit on the "I would be satisfied with a re-bore for replacement pistons. You can only overbore once because they don't make replacement sized overbore pistons." statement you made? Thanks in advance.
I can't sai "Oh yeah, I've done it" but here is a thread you may find interesting:
http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...hlight=6%2F550
Amos
PS. Someone else:
Last edited by Guest; 09-16-2009, 03:19 PM.
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“If your going to do that, you might as well do…”
Originally posted by dzane View PostI was only going to proceed if I heard something like: "Oh yeah, I've done it and it is easy and the parts are readily available and ..." I have enjoyed the bike for all these years and I will continue to enjoy it with a restoration this off season and possibly an engine rebuild. Fun little bike with lots of miles left in her. Buffalo Bill could you elaborate a bit on the "I would be satisfied with a re-bore for replacement pistons. You can only overbore once because they don't make replacement sized overbore pistons." statement you made? Thanks in advance.
Replacement pistons come in 2 incremental oversizes, each just large enough for restoration of power in high mileage engines: 0.5mm, and 1.0mm. The cylinder is rebored to fit them. the pistons are purchased first so the machinist can measure them before he rebores the block. So your engine might be due for the first oversize rebore of 0.5mm, but it would have to be measured to know.
If you like (had money) you could consider: new oversize pistons, performance cams and valve springs with the piston tops cut to stay clear the valves. That would mean rejetting the carbs too, because the whole engine management system is connected like a chain, and all the changes will have to be tuned to work together as a unit. Interesting work if your up to it.
Bill1982 GS1100G- road bike
1990 GSX750F-(1127cc '92 GSXR engine)
1987 Honda CBR600F Hurricane
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TheBigRed
Originally posted by Buffalo Bill View PostGood idea about not doing a 650 conversion, I read a thread about a basement project doing that, but no long term follow up , probably didn't work so well.
Replacement pistons come in 2 incremental oversizes, each just large enough for restoration of power in high mileage engines: 0.5mm, and 1.0mm. The cylinder is rebored to fit them. the pistons are purchased first so the machinist can measure them before he rebores the block. So your engine might be due for the first oversize rebore of 0.5mm, but it would have to be measured to know.
If you like (had money) you could consider: new oversize pistons, performance cams and valve springs with the piston tops cut to stay clear the valves. That would mean rejetting the carbs too, because the whole engine management system is connected like a chain, and all the changes will have to be tuned to work together as a unit. Interesting work if your up to it.
Bill
As of late last year it was still running if memory serves. In fact the user was going to sell me a 650 top end to redo mine, but never got back to me on the cost to ship it, so I went with staying at 550 on my rebuild.
Maybe they will pop in and give an update on their thread sometime.
Amos
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dzane
Keeping it 550
I'll be checking the engine to see if it needs to be overbored at all. It is a relatively hi-miler, but these engines well cared for, (mine has been), are 100K engines easy. I want the rebuild mainly for cosmetic reasons as the old girl has been through a lot including being parked in an open carport for a while. Other than those four years it has been garaged and it now has a home inside a shop when it isn't scooting around the Pacific Northwest. I like my bike!
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