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    #46
    Originally posted by tone View Post
    Oops there seems to have been a little confusion here as to the meaning of my posts, in fact mighty13d nailed it

    Just to clear it up, imo anything straight & non flexible is fine for checking chain alignment i thiink thats pretty much agreed across all the forums i use, there is some discussion about what is best for checking wheel alignment (a seperate issue) i prefer the slightly more awkward but imo more accurate non flexible straight edge route here when a jig is not available.

    My second post was just a wtf here i am answering questions again & nobody even says "thanks" or "nice on mate" it does get a bit agrivating after a while if i'm honest

    tone
    Thanks for all your help, Tone! Sorry I misunderstood, I forget that you're across the pond. I read your post with the inflections of an yank. If I had remembered your location, I probably would have sorted what you were saying better. I'll drink a Stella to you next time I'm on the town.

    I may have found an interesting solution. I work for Home Depot, and we've recently put on clearance a little metal puck that houses a laser. It's designed to be bolted onto a circular saw. I think, if I can find a way to rig it onto the rear sprocket, this may be a great solution to the unreliability of previously attempted laser jigs.

    I'm fairly sure everything's adjusted correctly, as far as the chain goes. I get a really weird high pitched howling sort of sound at about 50 mph. It either goes away, or the pitch increases beyond human hearing range past 52-53 mph. Any ideas this might be? I removed the foam from the inside of the sprocket cover, maybe it there to absorb these high frequency sounds and I'm just being overly-sensitive? There's no performance change when the sound is active.

    I'll go ahead an start putting tool lists in with first posts as well. I was considering it already, but wasn't sure if it was wanted. It's surprisingly short for this project, and should be within the scope of any basic tool kit.

    Just ordered the rest of the parts I need for my front suspension rebuild, and was given a set of Progressive front fork springs, and a set of rear Progressive shocks and springs, from the PO, so be on the lookout for another write up in the near-future.
    Last edited by Guest; 12-20-2009, 04:08 PM.

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      #47
      This was a great write up! Thanks much Turtleface! I'm about to do this conversion and this was a total help. How has the performance been since the conversion. Did you ever figure out the high pitch noise at higher speeds?

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        #48
        wish I knew about this before I rebuilt my project. The chain flew off when the p.o. owned it and damaged the chain cover and some thread bosses on the case. Was only superficial. and replaced the chain cover. Went through the trouble of finding new 630 sprockets and new chain. Cost about 170, but now Ill put some miles on it before I convert to 530.

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          #49
          Turtleface, thank you so much for posting such a detailed write up with excellent pictures. I had been very hesitant to try to do this on my own, but because you're write up was so excellent it gave me the confidence that I could do it. And I was able to get it done, and I could immediately tell the difference with the new chain and sprockets on because the old ones were way past due to be replaced. Thanks again, you're the man.

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            #50
            Hey, mgotobed1.

            First, welcome to the forum. I suggest you start a new thread in the GS Owners forum to introduce yourself and your bike(s).

            Second, this thread that you posted to has been dead for almost 13 years. None of the other posters in this thread are active on the forum anymore.
            Rich
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              #51
              IMO the thread is obsolete anyway. The conversion should be to 520 chain now as that's where the development has gone in recent years.

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                #52
                Rear JT sprocket: JTR816.50 - 50 tooth 530
                Front JT sprocket: JTF513.18 - 18 tooth 530
                Front JT sprocket spacer: JTF518B - 6mm spacer
                DID (530VX3G120ZB) Gold 120 Link High Performance VX Series X-Ring Chain with Connecting Link

                This is what i put on my kat and it all fits up just fine. Or you basically find a match setup but in 520.
                78 GS1000 Yosh replica racer project
                82 Kat 1000 Project
                05 CRF450x
                10 990 ADV-R The big dirt bike

                P.S I don't check PM to often, email me if you need me.

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                  #53
                  Originally posted by GregT View Post
                  IMO the thread is obsolete anyway. The conversion should be to 520 chain now as that's where the development has gone in recent years.
                  If going to the 520 chain do you know if the 6mm spacer will still work or would you now need a 8 or 9mm spacer? Just curious but I would assume the thicker spacer would be required.
                  '84 GS750EF (Oct 2015 BOM) '79 GS1000N (June 2007 BOM) My Flickr site http://www.flickr.com/photos/soates50/
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                    #54
                    Originally posted by Sandy View Post

                    If going to the 520 chain do you know if the 6mm spacer will still work or would you now need a 8 or 9mm spacer? Just curious but I would assume the thicker spacer would be required.
                    The 6mm spacer is required because neither the 530 or 520 front sprocket will have the boss/integral spacer on the inside. 6mm spaces the front out so the inner edges of front and rear align. You'd use a 6mm spacer unless you needed to move the chain line outwards. If for instance you'd fitted a wider rear wheel. Which is easier with 520.....

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                      #55
                      Originally posted by GregT View Post

                      The 6mm spacer is required because neither the 530 or 520 front sprocket will have the boss/integral spacer on the inside. 6mm spaces the front out so the inner edges of front and rear align. You'd use a 6mm spacer unless you needed to move the chain line outwards. If for instance you'd fitted a wider rear wheel. Which is easier with 520.....
                      I thought the spacer went on the outside of the sprocket between the sprocket and the nut. Would the 520 sprocket then not need a wider spacer? I'm talking about stock GS1000, the 750/1100's should be the same. The bulge/boss on the stock sprocket is on the outside I thought.
                      '84 GS750EF (Oct 2015 BOM) '79 GS1000N (June 2007 BOM) My Flickr site http://www.flickr.com/photos/soates50/
                      https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4306/35860327946_08fdd555ac_z.jpg

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                        #56
                        Originally posted by Sandy View Post

                        I thought the spacer went on the outside of the sprocket between the sprocket and the nut. Would the 520 sprocket then not need a wider spacer? I'm talking about stock GS1000, the 750/1100's should be the same. The bulge/boss on the stock sprocket is on the outside I thought.
                        In my experience, if correctly assembled, the boss is on the inside.

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                          #57
                          Originally posted by GregT View Post

                          In my experience, if correctly assembled, the boss is on the inside.
                          With the OEM sprocket the flat part of the sprocket goes towards the engine case and the bulge with sound damper goes towards the outside where with a flat aftermarket sprocket the spacer should go to the outside to make up for the difference in width due to the missing bulge. The question is with a narrower sprocket would you need a thicker spacer or is the 6mm thick enough so the nut doesn't bottom out on the countershaft threads? Screenshot is from the Z1 site.
                          edit. Opps. The bulge actually has nothing to do with the damper. Just provides extra surface area on the spline. Still goes to the outside though.

                          Screenshot_20250114_120419_Chrome by soates50, on Flickr
                          Last edited by Sandy; Yesterday, 03:41 PM.
                          '84 GS750EF (Oct 2015 BOM) '79 GS1000N (June 2007 BOM) My Flickr site http://www.flickr.com/photos/soates50/
                          https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4306/35860327946_08fdd555ac_z.jpg

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                            #58
                            To answer your question you'd have to mock one up and check the alignment.

                            I'll repeat that I've never seen the boss on the outside. IMO it would be poor engineering as the splined lock washer should go up against a flat face as large as possible.

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