Top End Oiler Project

[posplayr]

Thanks, bud. Guess I'm a bit daft though, as I didn't see a direct answer there. What's the deal with the larger studs?

Your question

Is there a benefit to having a TEO on a stock engine?

The link provided

http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum/showthread.php?t=153300

I ran across this thread at Gixxer.com. It explains what Top end oilers (TEO) are for as far as the benefit to valve train. There are other reasons that racers do it and you have to remember that different model have different reasons. For a street bike 16V motor, this is the only reason to use (I think) to use a TEO.

If you only have a GS you can ignore all the other discussion as that is only for GSXR's that have 2 separate systems 1.) oil cooling system and 2.) oil lubrications system

http://www.gixxer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=252769

when running cams with a lot of lift and/or duration - heavy duty valve springs together with hardwelded rockers are often specified too. the uprated valve springs allow the rocker to follow the more aggresive profile on the replacement cams without bouncing at high RPM this is achived by the extra pressure that the uprated springs exerts on the follower - and hence the camshaft lobe also. all this extre pressure can quickly take its toll on normal rockers at the point where the camshaft runs - the pad. so for really hot cams the rockers are modified by having the their existing pad material ground off and then this surface is replaced by hard welding and results in a much harder surface - just like a standard rocker it wont last 5 minutes unless its effectively lubricated - top end kit provides this!

Your answer:

Yes there are benefits.

The question you did not ask: "Is it necessary on a stock engine?"

No, not nessesary for a moderately driven stock 1150.

Of course you must realize that finding answers on this forum with direct and definitive answers that have 100% consensus are as rare as hen's teeth . That was the reason for the link so you could make you own decision based on the previous discussions on the topic.

Larger studs are for higher compression/big blocks. You need more head bolt tension and therefore larger bolts than stock.

[UncleMike]

I see. I was a bit confused as the link to the gixxer site is a discussion about brake rotors, and the quoted part was talking about cams with a lot of lift and duration. I'm still learning a lot when it comes to doing anything to these engines other than bringing them back to stock.

Thanks very much for the idiot version. It's much-appreciated.

[posplayr]

I see. I was a bit confused as the link to the gixxer site is a discussion about brake rotors, and the quoted part was talking about cams with a lot of lift and duration. I'm still learning a lot when it comes to doing anything to these engines other than bringing them back to stock.

Thanks very much for the idiot version. It's much-appreciated.

Sorry,
I posted an explaination at the original link

EDIT 11/7/10: Well this is a real tell. Long ago when I posted this link nobody even mentioned that the link was pointing to rotors information and not to top end oiler. I now have no idea how to find the link I thought I was posting about . And since nobody cared to even look then I'm not going to spend the next hour looking for it now.

[UncleMike]

Sorry,
I posted an explaination at the original link

No good deed, eh?

I appreciate your effort regardless. Thanks.

[posplayr]

No good deed, eh?

I appreciate your effort regardless. Thanks.

Thank you, but it might be the straw to break the camel's back.


People's expectations and lack of thought or thinking when asking for free advice is leaving me cold. If they don't pay for it, it doesn't seem to have any value as they did not have to pay for it. It is taken for granted.


I think I will be focusing much more on my paying jobs in the future.

[dlind]

Hi Greg, need your kit, want to adapt to a funnybike turbo, run a Mr Turbo block but need oil direct to rockers plus Garrett plain bearing draw through turbo setup. Can you help me out with this? Talked to a buddy of mine that frequents this forum and he said looking at a couple of months for your regular kit. Thanks Dave

[gregr]

I'm sorry this went to the wrong person. I do not have or supply the top-end kits.
Hope you can get it sorted out

[blowerbike]

doesn't ray have a buddy name greg on this site that made the top end oiler's?
hi david...shoot me an email sometime and let me know your progress on the kosman,
terry in ohio

[posplayr]

doesn't ray have a buddy name greg on this site that made the top end oiler's?
hi david...shoot me an email sometime and let me know your progress on the kosman,
terry in ohio

yep he is the OP

[dlind]

Sorry about that, typed top end oiler in search and i think it took me here, I hate technology sometimes LOL. Hey Terry the Kosman is starting to take shape. Dave

[rapidray]

You want Greg B, not gregr. Ray.

[Homie]

too little too late?

Being that it has been over six months since the last post on this thread my post may be like closing the barn door long after the cows ran out.....but has Greg B ever resumed production on his TEO kits? They look realy nice and I would like to upgrade current TEO with one of his distribution blocks that would allow me to retain the temp and pressure sensors. Greg B? Rapid Ray? Anybody know?

[chef1366]

I have a plate with no threads for a sending unit or temp sensor so I'm going to a machine shop and see if they can drill/tap me some.

[Greg B]

I have about 10 sets machined, but have not been able to scrape up the cash to purchase the components that I don't make myself. i.e. the fittings, & oil lines.
I know this is taking me a lot longer than anticipated. Sorry about that.

@chef: Don't forget the Suzuki temp sensor is a British, 1/8-28 BSPT, (British Standard Pipe Taper) NOT 1/8-27 NPT

[rapidray]

Greg, I got the cash to order the other parts. Lets get it done!!! Ray.