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    Hi gang

    Installed the V&H pro pipe on my 82 1100E and the bike sounds great. What would you recommend for a cam change? Bike is still at 9.5 to 1.

    Thanks
    RacingJake
    1166cc 1/8 ET 6.09@111.88
    1166cc on NOS, 1/8 ET 5.70@122.85
    1395cc 1/8 ET 6.0051@114.39
    1395cc on NOS, 1/8 ET 5.71@113.98 "With a broken wrist pin too"
    01 Sporty 1/8 ET 7.70@92.28, 1/4 ET 12.03@111.82

    #2
    Stock! I guess what I'm saying is why bother to put in just a set of cams in a street bike thats this old?

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      #3
      Check out this link http://www.webcamshafts.com/suzuki-moto.html They have a little blurb about what each cam should do to the engine characteristics.

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        #4
        Re: Cams

        Originally posted by RacingJake
        Hi gang

        Installed the V&H pro pipe on my 82 1100E and the bike sounds great. What would you recommend for a cam change? Bike is still at 9.5 to 1.

        Thanks
        RacingJake
        What did you do to the carbs and are you running a baffel of any type???

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          #5
          cams

          a set of mild cams would sharpen the motor a little. in yoshi they would be road/track grind .don't worry about compression ratio its ok, suits road use .high comp is really for drag strip
          ozman

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            #6
            I think what needs to be taken into consideration is what gains you would get out of cams. When you build a motor it is the sum of all modifications that makes a difference.

            You will possibly notice a slight gain with cams. New caburators a bit more. Head work, more yet. And the list goes on. Every modification that you make will help - in sum. By themselves they do not do much at all.

            You may get 5 Hp or so with cams at a pricetag of $350 or more. Another $50 for slotted sprockets that will get you another 3 or so HP.

            I think it is wise to understand how far you want to go on mods before you start down that path. Have a plan and stick with it or else you will spend a ton of money and not get all you want.

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              #7
              Currently running bigger jets, K&N filters and no exhaust baffel. Installed a 16 inch wheel from another suzuki for drag racing. May install a nitrous kit in the winter. Goal is to break into the 6's and top 100 mph in the 1/8 mile.

              RacingJake
              82 1100E
              1166cc 1/8 ET 6.09@111.88
              1166cc on NOS, 1/8 ET 5.70@122.85
              1395cc 1/8 ET 6.0051@114.39
              1395cc on NOS, 1/8 ET 5.71@113.98 "With a broken wrist pin too"
              01 Sporty 1/8 ET 7.70@92.28, 1/4 ET 12.03@111.82

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                #8
                Originally posted by RacingJake
                Currently running bigger jets, K&N filters and no exhaust baffel. Installed a 16 inch wheel from another suzuki for drag racing. May install a nitrous kit in the winter. Goal is to break into the 6's and top 100 mph in the 1/8 mile.

                RacingJake
                82 1100E
                If you are just racing the bike and not riding it on the street then something a little hotter in cams would help out.-- if you are driving on the street and want some sanity thern go with the recomended milder cams. what times are you doing in the 1/8 now and what type of rear tire are you using.--Have you changed your chain and sprockest at all yet??

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                  #9
                  So far I've run 7.48 at 93 mph, 60 foot at 1.88, 330 at 4.86 and crossing the line in 3rd gear. Currently it has a 15 T up front and a 42 T rear. Street tire size is a 120 on the stock rim. Ran a 14 T once and it pull hard in first gear, I was doing roll on wheelies at any rpm in first. I may try it again and run a 41 T rear for a 2.92 ratio and see whats happens. Our track is 1/8 mile concret and they use's alot of VHT so traction is not a problem. I think stock cams run around 280 lift and I was thinking a 340 lift would work without to many mods.

                  Thanks
                  RacingJake
                  1166cc 1/8 ET 6.09@111.88
                  1166cc on NOS, 1/8 ET 5.70@122.85
                  1395cc 1/8 ET 6.0051@114.39
                  1395cc on NOS, 1/8 ET 5.71@113.98 "With a broken wrist pin too"
                  01 Sporty 1/8 ET 7.70@92.28, 1/4 ET 12.03@111.82

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                    #10
                    So if I run a 20 HP shot of nitrous, how much time would I drop and how much MPH could I gain ???
                    350 dollars for cams that only give me 5 more HP, I think I'll go the nitrous route.

                    RacingJake
                    1166cc 1/8 ET 6.09@111.88
                    1166cc on NOS, 1/8 ET 5.70@122.85
                    1395cc 1/8 ET 6.0051@114.39
                    1395cc on NOS, 1/8 ET 5.71@113.98 "With a broken wrist pin too"
                    01 Sporty 1/8 ET 7.70@92.28, 1/4 ET 12.03@111.82

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                      #11
                      If you can't keep the bike down using lower gears, you'll have the same problem with nitrous. You may want to extend the swingarm, lower the gears, and see what happens. Granted, that's a bigger task then cams or nitrous, but your et may fall more too. Of course while you're at it you could set it up to take a larger tire, cause once you get the wheelie under control, traction will be next.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by RacingJake
                        So far I've run 7.48 at 93 mph, 60 foot at 1.88, 330 at 4.86 and crossing the line in 3rd gear.



                        Me and my stock ESD was kicking your ass!!

                        :twisted: :twisted:

                        This is a stock bike, except for the pipe and jets. If the goal is just to get a higher top end, the N2O is fun to play with. I would get a longer swingarm, skinney tire, struts and a bar. Try to get the front end on the ground and get it to come out harder.

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                          #13
                          7.34 is all you got. Mine was 7.48 after twelve runs back to back with a air temp over 100 and a track temp over 140 during one of our hot Texas days. Try those conditions and see if your ESD bike can even brake into 7.80's. Come on down I got $100 says you'll most likely RED LIGHT.
                          1166cc 1/8 ET 6.09@111.88
                          1166cc on NOS, 1/8 ET 5.70@122.85
                          1395cc 1/8 ET 6.0051@114.39
                          1395cc on NOS, 1/8 ET 5.71@113.98 "With a broken wrist pin too"
                          01 Sporty 1/8 ET 7.70@92.28, 1/4 ET 12.03@111.82

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by RacingJake
                            7.34 is all you got. Mine was 7.48 after twelve runs back to back with a air temp over 100 and a track temp over 140 during one of our hot Texas days. Try those conditions and see if your ESD bike can even brake into 7.80's. Come on down I got $100 says you'll most likely RED LIGHT.
                            So many excuses why your so slow .... lashing out at my driving is not going to make you any faster. I had the same setup running the high 7.20s at the same track, but that is all shes got.

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                              #15
                              With a hand written time slip I must be back in the 70's again. Tell them to get with the program and invest in new timing equipment, you know the one with out tubes. Installed a lowering strap on the front end and there is no rebound at all. Looks like a 2-3 inch drop. Should be able to launch above 5K and get those 60 footer into 1.70's

                              RacingJake
                              1166cc 1/8 ET 6.09@111.88
                              1166cc on NOS, 1/8 ET 5.70@122.85
                              1395cc 1/8 ET 6.0051@114.39
                              1395cc on NOS, 1/8 ET 5.71@113.98 "With a broken wrist pin too"
                              01 Sporty 1/8 ET 7.70@92.28, 1/4 ET 12.03@111.82

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